Hello,
there is an interesting idea that installers should be idempotent. I have
heard it on LinuxAlt conference 2013 in Brno, Czech republic and it is
implemented e.g. by project Chef [1] and it is used e.g. by OpenStack
installer [2] (used e.g. by SUSE).
What Wikipedia says about idempoten
As someone who has fought with using/modifying/QA'ing unstable FreeIPA
installers from the nightly repos, I wholeheartedly second this motion!
Make sure the oVirt guys get wind of this idea also! ;)
PS: semi-related note — Can FreeIPA be made to consume the CSR that results
from the ovirt-host-de
PPS: you guys might be able to borrow oVirt's "otopi" installer engine, it
seems to have been created to make install scripts more declarative.
Although to the end-user otopi can seem dense, complicated, and mysterious
(e.g., its weird .conf file syntax). They might need your help making otopi
more
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 03:40:52PM +0100, Petr Spacek wrote:
>
> In reality, it means that you can re-run OpenStack installer on the
> same machine/set of machines (with the same configuration, of
> course!) and it will re-do everything again. You can re-run
The point is that it should *not* redo
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Derek Moore wrote:
> PPS: you guys might be able to borrow oVirt's "otopi" installer engine, it
> seems to have been created to make install scripts more declarative.
If you like declarative, you should consider using my puppet-ipa
module to install this. It does
On 15.11.2013 02:14, Jan Pazdziora wrote:
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 03:40:52PM +0100, Petr Spacek wrote:
In reality, it means that you can re-run OpenStack installer on the
same machine/set of machines (with the same configuration, of
course!) and it will re-do everything again. You can re-run
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 08:38:11AM +0100, Petr Spacek wrote:
>
> The point is that you have a chance to fix the problem (reconfigure
> firewall, DNS etc.), run the installer again and it will finish the
> installation or fail later on some other problem. It means that you
> don't need to start fro
Jan Pazdziora wrote:
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 03:40:52PM +0100, Petr Spacek wrote:
In reality, it means that you can re-run OpenStack installer on the
same machine/set of machines (with the same configuration, of
course!) and it will re-do everything again. You can re-run
The point is that it
>
> Practically though, I think an idempotent installer opens a lot of cans of
> worms. Do we limit some answers to their original? Take for instance the
> REALM. Can someone change it on-the-fly? It would have some deep
> repercussions. Similarly, changing the hostname. There are all kinds of
> co
I don't really agree with you that it is all that difficult to get a real LDAPv3 server up and running. I've built quite a few of them over the years and what I mostly found was it was just poorly documented.Although I will say putting it all into one uniform toolset is ambitious, its not the first
On 15.11.2013 17:44, Derek Moore wrote:
Practically though, I think an idempotent installer opens a lot of cans of
worms. Do we limit some answers to their original? Take for instance the
REALM. Can someone change it on-the-fly? It would have some deep
repercussions. Similarly, changing the host
I meant to say the integration of components and subsystems and providing
some automation is what is truly difficult.
Back then I was coming from Netware NDS, so I already got DNs and RDNs. For
me the holy grail was sendmail + Cyrus IMAP + bind all serving from a
deduped/normalized LDAP schema. I
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