Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-10 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi Ellie & all, Maybe my previous mail was to generalising, what I tried to say is that a lot of people feel it the way I described, but certainly not everyone. So, it is perfectly fine if you do not need it, but at the same time this prevents most contributors learning to edit Wikipedia to stay a

Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-08 Thread Ellie K
Romaine Wiki says about women, participating as editors on Wikipedia: >They expect a social environment, with easy interaction, where they are stimulated and can form groups to be able not to feel alone on the wiki and to work together, >where they can get constructive feedback, where they can fol

Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-04 Thread Romaine Wiki
What it would take to close the gender gap? That WMF would realize itself that Wikipedia misses social software to give female contributors a comfortable feeling because of the social environment. Giving many workshops for new female contributors, we notice that they experience Wikipedia as a dif

Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-04 Thread Jason Radford
Hi, Thank you all for your feedback. I've incorporated a number of them and updated the report. It's now publicly available to share with folks who are interested. @Ellie, yes, the 75% retirement part was a typo on my part. Thanks for pointing it out! @Samuel and the group of people talking abou

Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-03 Thread Ellie K
Thank you so much, Jason Radford, for sharing your analysis! Lennart Guldbrandsson said: I know I was surprised to read that we would be better off trying to > recruit new editors than to focus on retention (very simplified). ​ I noticed that too and found it very surprising. Jason, I read that

Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-01 Thread Daniel and Elizabeth Case
>​I believe good design is a key issue for editor attraction and retention, so >that we can produce >professional-looking articles we can be proud of and want >to write. I would also love to see the >Foundation redesign the front page. Given how many of the candidates for the board in the electio

Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-01 Thread Lennart Guldbrandsson
ot;Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till världens samlade kunskap. Det är vårt mål." Jimmy Wales Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 13:51:31 -0400 From: pharosofalexand...@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Clo

Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-01 Thread Samuel Klein
I agree that we could build on the sandbox model; add an extra filter to RC, design a different visual background for those pages, and otherwise keep this creative experimentation "within" existing wikis. But we can also test it out on on a different experimental site, if we don't have that invest

Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-01 Thread Pharos
I like the idea of experimenting with new knowledgespaces, with new workflows to support them. With enough investment in design, I think this could be done on a large scale right in the project namespace of English Wikipedia. Thanks, Pharos On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Sarah (SV) wrote: >

Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-01 Thread Carol Moore dc
"Seeing like a state" refers to the idea that scientifically created govt programs can fix things. However, most a created by and for special interest and thus their inability to foresee the inevitable negative consequences or adjust quickly to them. However, nonprofit and profit businesses us

Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-01 Thread Sarah (SV)
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: > Thanks Jason. I enjoyed reading this, though the conclusions remind me of > _Seeing Like a State_. Not all edits, editors, and subcommunities are > equal. Trying to shift about contributors en masse in a way that is > convenient for large

Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-01 Thread Samuel Klein
Thanks Jason. I enjoyed reading this, though the conclusions remind me of _Seeing Like a State_. Not all edits, editors, and subcommunities are equal. Trying to shift about contributors en masse in a way that is convenient for large organizations (or for those of us who like crunching large dat

Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-01 Thread Siko Bouterse
Super interesting, thanks for sharing Jason. "Can Wikipedia increase the number of new female editors four-fold and increase new editor retention four-fold every month for three years?" On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Joseph Reagle wrote: > Interesting! > > _

Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-01 Thread Joseph Reagle
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[Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-01 Thread Jason Radford
Hi, Since participating in the Inspire campaign, I got interested in the question of exactly how many women would be needed on Wikipedia to close the gender gap. I ran some simulations and came up with some fairly radical numbers. For example, according to my calculations, there are so few curre