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On 07/09/12 03:25 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> On 07-09-2012 12:03:16 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
>> On 09/07/2012 11:17 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
>>> I guess real-life examples, more extensively described than you
>>> did before, with exactly where it g
On 07-09-2012 20:36:02 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> The correct fix for "not needing to rebuild" stuff is to SLOT libraries
> like crazy, and have a SLOT per thing-we-don't-call-ABI. This then
> needs := dependencies, so that packages can say "and remember which
> SLOT I was built against".
>
>
On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 21:25:22 +0200
Fabian Groffen wrote:
> I like that! Kudos for making it work!
>
> I just wonder what the heck that has to do with SLOT.
The correct fix for "not needing to rebuild" stuff is to SLOT libraries
like crazy, and have a SLOT per thing-we-don't-call-ABI. This then
n
On 07-09-2012 12:03:16 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
> On 09/07/2012 11:17 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> > I guess real-life examples, more extensively described than you did
> > before, with exactly where it goes wrong, and how the situation is
> > improved would help.
>
> Perhaps some of the greatest f
On 07-09-2012 19:55:53 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > It appears slot-operator-deps do have some resemblance with ABI here
> > (especially if :* would be written in PMS such that it only allows
> > upgrades, no downgrades), but sub-slots are completely unrelated.
>
> Downgrades are a different,
On 09/07/2012 11:17 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> No, not a GLEP, per se. I'm trying to understand what sub-slot does and
> is. I think I'm starting to understand now. However, for this feature
> to be added to an EAPI, IMO it would be nice if there are resources that
> make it for most developers
On 07-09-2012 14:39:38 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> I guess maybe i'm not following your example. To spell it out better,
> here's what I'm understanding:
>
> bar-1.0 has (prior to slot-operators) an RDEPEND="app-cat/libfnord".
> No version specified. As such, it'll build successfully agains
On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 20:49:35 +0200
Fabian Groffen wrote:
> On 07-09-2012 19:21:57 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 20:17:17 +0200
> > Fabian Groffen wrote:
> > > Eh, no. Now it just always breaks when you perform a downgrade,
> > > and revdev-rebuild or @preserved-libs won't h
On 07-09-2012 19:21:57 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 20:17:17 +0200
> Fabian Groffen wrote:
> > Eh, no. Now it just always breaks when you perform a downgrade, and
> > revdev-rebuild or @preserved-libs won't help you. I prefer that you
> > give best practices how to use sub-
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On 07/09/12 02:17 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
>
> No, not a GLEP, per se. I'm trying to understand what sub-slot
> does and is. I think I'm starting to understand now. However, for
> this feature to be added to an EAPI, IMO it would be nice if ther
On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 20:17:17 +0200
Fabian Groffen wrote:
> Eh, no. Now it just always breaks when you perform a downgrade, and
> revdev-rebuild or @preserved-libs won't help you. I prefer that you
> give best practices how to use sub-slots to make Portage also able to
> do a recompile of bar when
On 07-09-2012 13:51:24 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> On 07/09/12 01:13 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> > On 06-09-2012 09:25:53 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> >> #1 - there is both a specification, and an initial
> >> implementation, AND a fork of the tree that is kept
> >> semi-up-to-date on my d
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