Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-10 Thread Grant Taylor
On 3/8/21 5:59 PM, antlists wrote: As I remember, you always had to use eselect to switch versions ... and witness all the chaos with python at the moment ... I don't know. If you leave things "at the default", doesn't that screw you over when python/kernel/gcc etc upgrade and a depclean dele

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 17:26:41 +0100, smurfd wrote: > Massive congrats :) > Great when things work out, after doing a ton of work to get there. As the great Douglas Adams once said "I am rarely happier than when spending an entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that wou

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-09 Thread smurfd
Massive congrats :) Great when things work out, after doing a ton of work to get there. br smurfd On 2021-03-08 23:06, Grant Taylor wrote: On 2/25/21 5:31 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: 10 have git switch to the next day 20 emerge -aDUN @world 30 assess / deal with masked packages 40 goto 10 It /loo

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 00:59:29 +, antlists wrote: > > It means you probably spent a lot of time compile gcc versions only to > > carry on using the old version, but as you said, this wasn't about > > efficiency. You were going to emerge -e @world at the end anyway, > > which would get everything

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-08 Thread antlists
On 08/03/2021 23:16, Neil Bothwick wrote: I don't remember what it was at the start, probably 8. or 9.. I did see 9.3 somewhere along the way. gcc -v says that 10.2.0 is currently installed. It means you probably spent a lot of time compile gcc versions only to carry on using the old version

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-08 Thread Grant Taylor
On 3/8/21 5:35 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: Not if you went up a slot, then the old version would still continue to be used until you ran gcc-config. However, if you were depcleaning at each step, that would remove the previous slot and you would stay current. So my overall method, which included d

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 16:44:35 -0700, Grant Taylor wrote: > > It means you probably spent a lot of time compile gcc versions only > > to carry on using the old version, but as you said, this wasn't about > > efficiency. > > Wouldn't the next execution of gcc, post Emerge & Installation use the

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-08 Thread Grant Taylor
On 3/8/21 4:16 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: It would have to be done before the first update, when the repo was set to a date just after the last update. Yes and no. It really could have been done at any point along the way. Also, with the git version of the portage repo, I could switch back to

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 15:44:38 -0700, Grant Taylor wrote: > On 3/8/21 3:29 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > With hindsight, removing firefox, thunderbird and libreoffice and > > replacing them with their -bin counterparts at the start of the > > process would have saved much time. You could switch back

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-08 Thread Grant Taylor
On 3/8/21 3:29 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: With hindsight, removing firefox, thunderbird and libreoffice and replacing them with their -bin counterparts at the start of the process would have saved much time. You could switch back to the source options once the system is up to date. You're proba

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 8 Mar 2021 15:06:01 -0700, Grant Taylor wrote: > The following packages take what seems like F O R E V E R to emerge: > > - gcc > - rust > - Firefox > - Thunderbird With hindsight, removing firefox, thunderbird and libreoffice and replacing them with their -bin counterparts at

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 2 - SUCCESS! - CURRENT!!!

2021-03-08 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/25/21 5:31 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: 10 have git switch to the next day 20 emerge -aDUN @world 30 assess / deal with masked packages 40 goto 10 It /looks/ like things are working. *TL;DR* DenverCoder9: DEAR PEOPLE FROM THE FUTURE ... This method /does/ work. I have successfully brought

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 1

2021-02-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 08:59:08 +, Michael wrote: > > That's right, the source files are in $DISTDIR, unless you have > > cleaned it. /var/db/pkg contains all the information portage needs > > about the installed software. > > $ emerge --info | grep DISTDIR > > will show if the source files d

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 1

2021-02-27 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 27 February 2021 08:34:02 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 00:47:04 -0700, Grant Taylor wrote: > > The ebuild and what looks like additional metadata files are in the > > /var/db/pkg directory tree. But the source files aren't in the tree. > > At least not for the exampl

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 1

2021-02-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 00:47:04 -0700, Grant Taylor wrote: > The ebuild and what looks like additional metadata files are in the > /var/db/pkg directory tree. But the source files aren't in the tree. > At least not for the example package I looked at. That's right, the source files are in $DISTDI

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 1

2021-02-26 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/26/21 11:55 PM, Arve Barsnes wrote: I'm not sure what you're saying here, but the ebuild files of the installed packages are in /var/db/pkg Hum. Today I Learned... The ebuild and what looks like additional metadata files are in the /var/db/pkg directory tree. But the source files aren'

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 1

2021-02-26 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 at 23:30, Grant Taylor wrote: > > If the packages are installed, the ebuilds are in var/db/pkg. > > The package (distribution files) for the version that is installed are > in distfiles. But that does little for an ebuild that's looking for a > newer version that's no longer o

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 1

2021-02-26 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/26/21 12:50 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: Ah yes, I hadn't thought about the mirrors being too up to date. There's also issue with older packages being installed. E.g. I have an older kernel source (4.14.127) that I'm keeping around for various reasons. I've found that the Gentoo repo / por

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 1

2021-02-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 11:44:12 -0700, Grant Taylor wrote: > I have run into a few problems where emerge can't download files. So > I'm finding them online, downloading them, and saving them to > /usr/portage/distfiles. Ah yes, I hadn't thought about the mirrors being too up to date. > I have h

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward? - Update 1

2021-02-26 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/25/21 5:31 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: 10 have git switch to the next day 20 emerge -aDUN @world 30 assess / deal with masked packages 40 goto 10 It /looks/ like things are working. This method is working. I have managed to successfully update from 2020-03-24 to 2020-05-29 in one day increm

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 17:31:15 -0700, Grant Taylor wrote: > One added advantage of doing this day by day is that when I do get to > the big changes, things should be fairly clean. Thus hopefully > simplifying the big changes. You are also going to hit the annoying bugs that were fixed a few hour

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-25 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/24/21 9:29 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: I'm currently doing an "emerge -DUNe @system" on the restore of /usr/portage (typical PORTDIR) from prior to messing with things today. The system is now stable with a full -DUNe @system. emerge -DUNe @system reboot emerge -DUNe @world && emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-25 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 25 February 2021 15:42:38 GMT Grant Taylor wrote: > On 2/25/21 2:51 AM, Michael wrote: > > A reinstall in this context is not a wholesale replace. > > ~blink~ > > > It implies obtaining the latest Stage 3 archive from a mirror, > > but retaining part of your current installation. Y

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-25 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/25/21 2:51 AM, Michael wrote: It would probably be better even with a lot of customizations. ;-) Please elaborate on what "better" means in this case. I'm thinking that you might be meaning "faster" and / or "easier" (as in less effort). At least it /should/ be better in terms of tim

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:51:25 +, Michael wrote: > > Besides, wouldn't each of the incremental processes over the last year > > have been possible? ;-) > > Yes, it would have been, but what is the benefit of updating multiple > packages many times over, instead of doing it just once? One be

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-25 Thread Wols Lists
On 25/02/21 08:45, hitachi303 wrote: > Am 25.02.2021 um 02:43 schrieb Grant Taylor: >> I need to update a system that hasn't been updated in 337 days (March >> 24th 2020. -- Life has been ... trying. >> >> What is the best way forward? >> >> It seems as if there have been a lot of changes in the

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-25 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 25 February 2021 04:29:25 GMT Grant Taylor wrote: > On 2/24/21 9:16 PM, John Covici wrote: [snip ...] > > Unless you have a lot of customizations, reinstall would be much > > better. It would probably be better even with a lot of customizations. ;-) At least it /should/ be better

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-25 Thread hitachi303
Am 25.02.2021 um 02:43 schrieb Grant Taylor: I need to update a system that hasn't been updated in 337 days (March 24th 2020.  --  Life has been ... trying. What is the best way forward? It seems as if there have been a lot of changes in the interim; glibc, Python 2.7 being deprecated, defaul

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-24 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/24/21 9:16 PM, John Covici wrote: The portdir has to be the one gotten from git, not rsync, ACK I'm currently doing an "emerge -DUNe @system" on the restore of /usr/portage (typical PORTDIR) from prior to messing with things today. I've got multiple GB of git data. It looks like there

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-24 Thread John Covici
On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 21:20:05 -0500, Grant Taylor wrote: > > On 2/24/21 6:48 PM, John Covici wrote: > > What you could try to do, if you are syncing using git, is to > > roll it back to those dates by checking out a commit each time > > and doing an update. I don't guarantee it would work, but its

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-24 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/24/21 6:48 PM, John Covici wrote: What you could try to do, if you are syncing using git, is to roll it back to those dates by checking out a commit each time and doing an update. I don't guarantee it would work, but its worth a shot, otherwise reinstall time. I hit send too soon. Than

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-24 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/24/21 6:48 PM, John Covici wrote: What you could try to do, if you are syncing using git, is to roll it back to those dates by checking out a commit each time and doing an update. I don't guarantee it would work, but its worth a shot, otherwise reinstall time. And what if I was still us

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-24 Thread John Covici
On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 20:43:39 -0500, Grant Taylor wrote: > > I need to update a system that hasn't been updated in 337 days > (March 24th 2020. -- Life has been ... trying. > > What is the best way forward? > > It seems as if there have been a lot of changes in the interim; > glibc, Python 2.

[gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-24 Thread Grant Taylor
I need to update a system that hasn't been updated in 337 days (March 24th 2020. -- Life has been ... trying. What is the best way forward? It seems as if there have been a lot of changes in the interim; glibc, Python 2.7 being deprecated, default Python going to 3.7(?), other breaking chan