Re: pop art

2015-09-03 Thread Nick Lord
Can we please stop this "discussion" on this list? It has nothing to do with get_iplayer and is needlessly clogging my mailbox. Best regards, Nick Lord On Thu, 2015-09-03 at 13:47 +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 01:17:03AM +0100, C E Macfarlane wrote: > > >

Re: pop art

2015-09-03 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 01:17:03AM +0100, C E Macfarlane wrote: >And BTW your premise about about > the Terrestrial TV Calculator is also mistaken, because the page was NEVER > DESIGNED to work on a mobile Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were presenting re

RE: pop art

2015-09-02 Thread C E Macfarlane
Please see below for further OT discussion, otherwise please ignore ... www.macfh.co.uk/CEMH.html > Name one that is commonly used by consumers in the UK. It is interesting that you claim to have worked on iPlayer, yet you do not seem to be aware of the BBC's own guidelines wrt to JavaScript

Re: pop art

2015-09-02 Thread michael norman
On 09/02/2015 06:25 PM, David Cantrell wrote: On Wed, Sep 02, 2015 at 05:12:58PM +0100, C E Macfarlane wrote: Yes, for example, for security reasons, and a number of mobile browsers do not support JavaScript: http://quirksmode.org/m/table.html Name one that is commonly used by consume

Re: pop art

2015-09-02 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Sep 02, 2015 at 05:12:58PM +0100, C E Macfarlane wrote: > Yes, for example, for security reasons, and a number of mobile browsers do > not support JavaScript: > http://quirksmode.org/m/table.html Name one that is commonly used by consumers in the UK. > > And if you have deliber

Re: pop art

2015-09-02 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Sep 02, 2015 at 04:24:34PM +0100, Jim web wrote: > The primary point of HTML and webpages has from the start to allow content > creator to not need to care what browsers/setting/user preferences may be. > The aim being to provide for the widest range with the least effort. That certainly

RE: pop art

2015-09-02 Thread C E Macfarlane
See below for further OT discussion, otherwise please ignore ... www.macfh.co.uk/CEMH.html > -Original Message- > David Cantrell > > They want to provide the > best service > they can to the vast majority of users, within the constraints imposed > by their budget a

Re: pop art

2015-09-02 Thread Jim web
In article <20150902125224.gc22...@bytemark.barnyard.co.uk>, David Cantrell wrote: > On Tue, Sep 01, 2015 at 06:38:15PM +0100, Jim web wrote: > > In article <20150901164651.ge9...@bytemark.barnyard.co.uk>, David > > Cantrell wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 09:53:49AM +0100, Jim web wrote: >

Re: pop art

2015-09-02 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, Sep 01, 2015 at 06:38:15PM +0100, Jim web wrote: > In article <20150901164651.ge9...@bytemark.barnyard.co.uk>, David Cantrell > wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 09:53:49AM +0100, Jim web wrote: > > > FWIW and IMHO The problem is that the BBC pages are generated by > > > people who have n

Re: pop art

2015-09-02 Thread Jim web
In article <20150901164651.ge9...@bytemark.barnyard.co.uk>, David Cantrell wrote: > On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 09:53:49AM +0100, Jim web wrote: > > FWIW and IMHO The problem is that the BBC pages are generated by > > people who have no clue about using simple basic HTML and take for > > granted what

Re: pop art

2015-09-01 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 09:53:49AM +0100, Jim web wrote: > FWIW and IMHO The problem is that the BBC pages are generated by people > who have no clue about using simple basic HTML and take for granted what > browsers. etc, people will use. This is not the case. They have clue, but they think that

RE: pop art

2015-08-25 Thread C E Macfarlane
Still OT below ... www.macfh.co.uk/CEMH.html > > I've written my own home page. The iplayer addresses and > top level BBC > > pages are some of the main links. :-) > > > > Jim > > A good idea! I must "get a round tuit" myself! ;-) I've produced a template for one as linke

Re: pop art

2015-08-25 Thread Alan Milewczyk
Hi Jim On 25/08/2015 18:22, Jim web wrote: In article <55dc5b76.90...@soulman1949.com>, Alan Milewczyk wrote: On 24/08/2015 09:53, Jim web wrote: Similarly I found some time ago that there are at least *two* versions of the iplayer's schedules day-page listings. One of which only goes back a

Re: pop art

2015-08-25 Thread Jim web
In article <55dc5b76.90...@soulman1949.com>, Alan Milewczyk wrote: > On 24/08/2015 09:53, Jim web wrote: > > > > Similarly I found some time ago that there are at least *two* versions > > of the iplayer's schedules day-page listings. One of which only goes > > back a week, while the other covers t

Re: pop art

2015-08-25 Thread Alan Milewczyk
On 24/08/2015 09:53, Jim web wrote: Similarly I found some time ago that there are at least *two* versions of the iplayer's schedules day-page listings. One of which only goes back a week, while the other covers the full month. I've not seen the "full month" version - could you post a sample U

Re: pop art

2015-08-25 Thread Jim web
OT alert as previous. :-) In article , C E Macfarlane wrote: > See below for further OT discussion, otherwise please ignore ... > What is needed in web-design is KIS (Keep It Simple), not a desire to > show off that you can use complex techniques that only modern browsers > can handle. > TBF

RE: pop art

2015-08-24 Thread C E Macfarlane
See below for further OT discussion, otherwise please ignore ... www.macfh.co.uk/CEMH.html > FWIW and IMHO The problem is that the BBC pages are generated > by people > who have no clue about using simple basic HTML and take for > granted what > browsers. etc, people will use.

Re: pop art

2015-08-24 Thread Jim web
In article <20150823162650.a937b26...@orac.inputplus.co.uk>, Ralph Corderoy wrote: > Hi Jim, > > I use my mainRISC OS box (ARMiniX / PandaBoard) for reading and > > writing emails, etc. But the main browser for that is NetSurf. No > > Flash, little or no JavaScript > Ah, OK. Former Acorn A310

Re: pop art

2015-08-23 Thread Jim web
In article <58452377C7BC424EBBFB8C870A037612@vasonote>, Vangelis forthnet wrote: > What you are missing is that (with Firefox) right under the embedded > player there's the title of the video clip, which is: > "Allen Jones RA: The power of desire" > and in fact is a clickable link; Ah-ha! Thank

Re: pop art

2015-08-23 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Jim, > I use my mainRISC OS box (ARMiniX / PandaBoard) for reading and > writing emails, etc. But the main browser for that is NetSurf. No > Flash, little or no JavaScript Ah, OK. Former Acorn A310 and R140 user here. :-) You might find URL-shortener sites like https://goo.gl and https://b

Re: pop art

2015-08-23 Thread Vangelis forthnet
On Sun Aug 23 15:10:44 BST 2015, Jim web wrote: The example I picked was http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/R5ccsVb9xw9JKRnZ470jPW/the-power-of-desire-allen-jones-at-the-ra (snip) which has a video whose source file pid I can't see using FireFox. (But may be missing something.) Hello Ji

Re: pop art

2015-08-23 Thread Jim web
In article <20150823120627.4ef5d25...@orac.inputplus.co.uk>, Ralph Corderoy wrote: > Hi Jim, > > However some go to pages *with* video or audio. But these *don't* all > > have a URL of the 'programmes/' format. > A precise URL please. Why should we have to hunt? :-) I should apologise for th

Re: pop art

2015-08-23 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Jim, > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/5pN6fKVhx1wYhVXtkjWwPFS/pop-art-season > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/SWCNr4H7s764wwpR7yQxTf/andy-warhol-louis-xiv-sun-kings > > > > Are they not pages listing programmes and their PIDs? > > The p

Re: pop art

2015-08-23 Thread Jim web
OK. I'll assume below that people will have followed that link and see the resulting page. > > But others have different "articles/." formats with lng > > 'random' alphanumeric sequences. > http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/5pN6fKVhx1wYhVXtkjWw

Re: pop art

2015-08-23 Thread Ralph Corderoy
alphanumeric sequences. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/5pN6fKVhx1wYhVXtkjWwPFS/pop-art-season http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/SWCNr4H7s764wwpR7yQxTf/andy-warhol-louis-xiv-sun-kings Are they not pages listing programmes and their PIDs? Cheers, Ralph. __

pop art

2015-08-23 Thread Jim Lesurf
I had a look at the 'pop art' collection that the BBC have been trailing and this prompted me to ask... The bbc.co.uk /popart URL took me to a /programmes/p02yt4dz page. Some of the items shown have the usual type of iplayer address with the programmes/ format. But others have