On 10/10/09 14:51, quoth David Hardy:
> This discussion reminds me of a number of IT job interviews I had where
> the tech questions asked of me were delivered in a smug, condescending
> tone, and if I didn't know every single facet of their infrastructure
> when I walked through their door, then I
I dislike the document because it's pedantically long-winded. It
desperately needs an executive summary. Anyone willing to read enough of
the document to benefit from it is likely already asking reasonable
questions, and thus is likely *not* the target audience.
--DTVZ
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 2
Lori Nagel writes:
> It took me half a year just to figure out how to add the math
> library into the compiler so I could compile some basic C programs
> from one of the C programing books I have.
Sorry, I must politely disagree that a situation like this relates in
any way to any of the negativ
This discussion reminds me of a number of IT job interviews I had where the
tech questions asked of me were delivered in a smug, condescending tone, and
if I didn't know every single facet of their infrastructure when I walked
through their door, then I must be a dolt and a fool. (I only had 13 ye
As the person who may or may not have been the object of the OP, allow
me to make a comment.
I found the linked document to be both condescending and informative.
For a while I was quite irritated. I think I'm over it now.
There are better ways to ask a question so that one can get good
answ
On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 09:04 -0400, Alex Hewitt wrote:
>
> Lori has hit it on the head. The document reeks of "us and them". I
> taught programming for several years at a community college. I told my
> students that there were no stupid questions. I told them that if they
> asked me a question
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> From: Bruce Dawson
> To: Lori Nagel
> Cc: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org
> Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 8:40:44 PM
> Subject: Re: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
>
> OK. I'll bite.
>
> What aspects of that document do you not like?
>
> --Bru
t; To: Greater NH Linux User Group
> Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 12:38:52 PM
> Subject: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
>
>
> For no particular reason, I will mention that I think that this is a
> really good document.
>
> http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questi
Ken D'Ambrosio writes:
> He's clearly been a force for good. But there's been an awful lot of
> baggage he's dragged around with him, and it seems to seep into most all
> his writings to some extent or another.
Ken has expressed here, more elegantly than I could have, my main
objections to this
> Ben Scott writes:
>> I've very often also found that while framing up a question in a
>> "smart" fashion, I'll realize what I haven't done but should
The ironic corollary to this that bites me about once a year is that I'm
busy banging my head against a problem. I finally give up, and compose
Ben Scott writes:
> I've very often also found that while framing up a question in a
> "smart" fashion, I'll realize what I haven't done but should, or
> that I don't understand the situation as well as I should. In the
> process of then filling in those gaps, I find the problem and get
> thing
*sigh*
I have no particular problem with that particular document. I actually
think it's pretty well-written, despite a slightly preachy tone. BUT...
I get tired of ESR fast. Real fast. Ever read any recent copies of The
Jargon File? I deeply dislike the way he feels he speaks for all hackers
Eric Raymond can be a PITA but in this case his recommendations (or,
more to the point, the principles behind them) are refined and spot-on;
they're applicable in pretty much any situation involving interactions
among multiple (smart) parties, not just online mailing lists...
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On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Bruce Dawson wrote:
> OK. I'll bite.
>
> What aspects of that document do you not like?
>
> --Bruce
Ultimately, the document isn't wrong. However, anyone who would take
the time to benefit from that document and ask better questions may
then shy away from asking a
er Group
> Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 12:38:52 PM
> Subject: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
>
>
> For no particular reason, I will mention that I think that this is a
> really good document.
>
> http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> I ho
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Lori Nagel wrote:
>> For no particular reason, I will mention that I think that this is a
>> really good document.
>>
>> http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> For no particular reason, I will say I do not think very highly of that
> document.
For s
Lori Nagel writes:
> For no particular reason, I will say I do not think very highly of
> that document.
Everybody is entitled to their opinion. In fact, I do not agree with
every aspect of that document. But overall I like it.
Kind regards,
--kevin
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For no particular reason, I will say I do not think very highly of that
document.
- Original Message
From: Kevin D. Clark
To: Greater NH Linux User Group
Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 12:38:52 PM
Subject: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
For no particular reason, I will mention
For no particular reason, I will mention that I think that this is a
really good document.
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
I hope that others enjoy it as well.
Kind regards,
--kevin
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