Re: How to get your first key signed

2015-10-01 Thread Anthony Papillion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 10/1/2015 11:51 PM, Guan Xin wrote: > On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 7:05 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote: >> So sure, yes, without identity verification it's hard to have confidence >> in someone's legal identity, absolutely. But even with identity >> ver

Re: How to get your first key signed

2015-10-01 Thread Guan Xin
On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 7:05 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > > Some years ago a user on PGP-Basics was irate over how I refused to sign > my messages. My argument was basically the one you were using: that > nobody on the list had verified my identity and that made my signatures > of marginal use.

Re: AW: Seperate Session Key and Encrypted Data

2015-10-01 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Thu 2015-10-01 07:52:51 -0700, Christian Loehle wrote: > That's what I would do if I had no other choice. The real downside is > that it doesn't follow a standard(like openpgp) and I will have to write > more code on the client side, compared to a standard openpgp solution. > It just seems like

Re: Facebook and OpenPGP

2015-10-01 Thread Christian Heinrich
Jon, On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 1:56 AM, Jon Millican wrote: > On 26 September 2015 at 03:24, Christian Heinrich > wrote: > Keys can be fetched from someone's profile "public_key" field, e.g. you > could fetch my public key with the query: > > /1617090031?fields=public_key How will this be integr

Re: How to get your first key signed

2015-10-01 Thread Christopher Beck
On 09/30/15 19:17, David Niklas wrote: > Hello, > I create for myself a gpg key and want to get it signed, however I've > sent out half a dozen requests and so far I've gotten only negative > responses to the effect that I must know so-and-so and we must met in > person (considering that the person

Re: Facebook and OpenPGP

2015-10-01 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 10/01/2015 10:28 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote: > > ... > > Reference: > https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/reference/user > > > Quick question: I just uploaded my key and the dropdown said > "public" ... does this mean I can get a

Re: How to get your first key signed

2015-10-01 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> Names are tremendously fluid instruments. Charles Martel, the hero of > France, didn't actually have a last name... Oh, man -- I completely forgot the great one from modernity. You can be elected President under a pseudonym. Not only that: *it's already happened*. President Ulysses Simpson G

Re: Facebook and OpenPGP

2015-10-01 Thread Melvin Carvalho
On 1 October 2015 at 22:30, Kristian Fiskerstrand < kristian.fiskerstr...@sumptuouscapital.com> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 10/01/2015 10:28 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote: > > > > > > ... > > > > > Reference: > > https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/refe

Re: Facebook and OpenPGP

2015-10-01 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 10/01/2015 10:35 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote: > >> Quick question: I just uploaded my key and the dropdown said >> "public" ... does this mean I can get at it without an access >> token? That would be super cool! > > > > I was actually looking into the same thing myself by trying > somet

Re: Facebook and OpenPGP

2015-10-01 Thread Melvin Carvalho
On 1 October 2015 at 17:56, Jon Millican wrote: > On 26 September 2015 at 03:24, Christian Heinrich < > christian.heinr...@cmlh.id.au> wrote: > > > > So as far as I am aware there is no integration with the Facebook > > GraphAPI yet :( > > Hi, I'm Jon - I work on OpenPGP support at Facebook. I th

Re: How to get your first key signed

2015-10-01 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> Doesn't all decent e-mail clients automagically check if a signature is > legit and matches the known public key? Probably not "all", but a lot, yes. The problem comes from you can't force a user to pay attention to a warning. Some years ago a friend of mine, Peter Likarish, invented a browser

Re: How to get your first key signed

2015-10-01 Thread Robert J. Hansen
(This came just to me, not to the mailing list. I'm assuming Bob intended to reply-all and just hit the wrong button. If I'm in error, Bob, please forgive me.) > What would be no use, and possibly harmful, would be to sign that > certificate just because you had seen it a couple of times - unle

Re: Facebook and OpenPGP

2015-10-01 Thread jonas hedman
On 15-10-01 19:14:49, Melvin Carvalho wrote: > On 1 October 2015 at 17:56, Jon Millican wrote: > > > On 26 September 2015 at 03:24, Christian Heinrich < > > christian.heinr...@cmlh.id.au> wrote: > > > > > > So as far as I am aware there is no integration with the Facebook > > > GraphAPI yet :( >

Re: How to get your first key signed

2015-10-01 Thread jonas hedman
On 15-10-01 13:05:28, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > > Whilst that is partially useful, surely it only vouches for the fact > > that the postings came from the same person and not who that person is - > > and as such is of very limited use. > > Yes. No. Somewhere in between. > > Some years ago a use

Seperate Session Key and Encrypted Data

2015-10-01 Thread Christian Loehle
I want to use gpg to encrypt a potentially large file to some (cloud-like) storage provider, the recipients are not known at the time of uploading. What I want to do is to send the encrypted session key of the file to a recipient, when I 'add' them, without reuploading or even touching the original

Re: Facebook and OpenPGP

2015-10-01 Thread Melvin Carvalho
On 1 October 2015 at 17:56, Jon Millican wrote: > On 26 September 2015 at 03:24, Christian Heinrich < > christian.heinr...@cmlh.id.au> wrote: > > > > So as far as I am aware there is no integration with the Facebook > > GraphAPI yet :( > > Hi, I'm Jon - I work on OpenPGP support at Facebook. I th

Re: Seperate Session Key and Encrypted Data

2015-10-01 Thread Daniel Koszta
You can use the --show-session-key and --override-session-key option for gpg. $ gpg --encrypt <<< "Test Message" > msg $ gpg --decrypt --show-session-key msg $ gpg --decrypt --override-session-key 'the_session_key_gpg_gave_you' Note that you do not need your private key for the last operation. H

Re: How to get your first key signed

2015-10-01 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> Whilst that is partially useful, surely it only vouches for the fact > that the postings came from the same person and not who that person is - > and as such is of very limited use. Yes. No. Somewhere in between. Some years ago a user on PGP-Basics was irate over how I refused to sign my mess

Re: Facebook and OpenPGP

2015-10-01 Thread Jon Millican
On 26 September 2015 at 03:24, Christian Heinrich mailto:christian.heinr...@cmlh.id.au>> wrote: > > So as far as I am aware there is no integration with the Facebook > GraphAPI yet :( Hi, I'm Jon - I work on OpenPGP support at Facebook. I thought you might be interested to hear that we now suppo

Re: Seperate Session Key and Encrypted Data

2015-10-01 Thread Anthony Papillion
I On October 1, 2015 9:38:13 AM CDT, Christian Loehle wrote: >I want to use gpg to encrypt a potentially large file to some >(cloud-like) storage provider, the recipients are not known at the time >of uploading. >What I want to do is to send the encrypted session key of the file to a >recipient

Re: Seperate Session Key and Encrypted Data

2015-10-01 Thread Koszta Dániel
You can use the --show-session-key and --override-session-key option for gpg. $ gpg --encrypt <<< "Test Message" > msg $ gpg --decrypt --show-session-key msg $ gpg --decrypt --override-session-key 'the_session_key_gpg_gave_you' Note that you do not need your private key for the last operation. H

Re: GnuPG User ID expiry

2015-10-01 Thread Werner Koch
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 05:37, d...@fifthhorseman.net said: > In the subprompt GnuPG provides, use "1" (or "2", etc) to select which > user ID you want. then use "expire" to change the expiration for that Well, you can do that but gpg ignores it. The expiration date is taken from the primary user i

Re: How to get your first key signed

2015-10-01 Thread Andrew Gallagher
On 01/10/15 15:18, Mark H. Wood wrote: > > To put my point more plainly: signatures on products and signatures > on keys mean different things, and to gain trust for them works in > different ways. Another case where common PGP terminology is confusing. You don't really "sign a key", you certify

Re: How to get your first key signed

2015-10-01 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Thu, Oct 01, 2015 at 09:33:59AM +0100, Bob Henson wrote: > On 30/09/2015 8:58 pm, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > >> I create for myself a gpg key and want to get it signed > > > > More important than whether your certificate gets signed is who signs > > the certificate, who they are connected to, an

Re: AW: Seperate Session Key and Encrypted Data

2015-10-01 Thread Christian Loehle
That's what I would do if I had no other choice. The real downside is that it doesn't follow a standard(like openpgp) and I will have to write more code on the client side, compared to a standard openpgp solution. It just seems like there is no reason why separating the session key and the data wo

Seperate Session Key and Encrypted Data

2015-10-01 Thread Christian Loehle
I want to use gpg to encrypt a potentially large file to some (cloud-like) storage provider, the recipients are not known at the time of uploading. What I want to do is to send the encrypted session key of the file to a recipient, when I 'add' them, without re-uploading or even touching the origina

Re: Non-interactive PIN not accepted, gpg hangs

2015-10-01 Thread Laurent Blume
Le 2015/10/01 13:07 +0200, Niibe Yutaka a écrit: > I think that Nitrokey series would be a right solution, both for > hardware-wise and their perspective. So far, looks good, so I'm hopeful :) > As Peter suggested, I feel that your use case is not directly related > to OpenPGP. It seems that you

Re: How to get your first key signed

2015-10-01 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 01/10/15 13:08, Bob Henson wrote: > If the program has been altered the signature will fail, will it not? Well, first of all, a checksum is not a cryptographic hash. It has different properties: a checksum usually has no collision resistance. Which is why the designers of WEP should have never

Re: How to get your first key signed

2015-10-01 Thread Andrew Gallagher
On 01/10/15 11:35, Peter Lebbing wrote: > > Well, it doesn't help me at all to know that the developer of said > software indeed has "David Niklas" on his passport. That gives me no > more confidence in the integrity of the software than if he had a > different name. All I need to know is that tha

Re: How to get your first key signed

2015-10-01 Thread Bob Henson
On 01/10/2015 11:35 am, Peter Lebbing wrote: > On 01/10/15 10:33, Bob Henson wrote: >> There might be a possible exception where there is no individual >> person to meet - the verification signature with software, say. When >> you have downloaded the software from the same, known website for >> som

Re: Non-interactive PIN not accepted, gpg hangs

2015-10-01 Thread NIIBE Yutaka
Hello, While the discussion proceeds, I can't determine which post I should reply. Well, I think I reply to this post. On 09/30/2015 10:37 PM, Laurent Blume wrote: > The thing is, I asked around (on some other lists), and had a look at > HSM's, we even have a hundred thousands € worth of HSM, us

Re: How to get your first key signed

2015-10-01 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 01/10/15 10:33, Bob Henson wrote: > There might be a possible exception where there is no individual > person to meet - the verification signature with software, say. When > you have downloaded the software from the same, known website for > some time it might be reasonable to sign the verificat

Re: How to get your first key signed

2015-10-01 Thread Bob Henson
On 30/09/2015 8:58 pm, Robert J. Hansen wrote: >> I create for myself a gpg key and want to get it signed > > More important than whether your certificate gets signed is who signs > the certificate, who they are connected to, and so on. > > Some people will sign almost anything. People who get a

Re: Local PAM authentication with OpenPGP Card (was Re: PAM authentication with gpg or ssh key)

2015-10-01 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 01/10/15 08:06, NIIBE Yutaka wrote: > Although I have a bit of experience with Poldi, frankly speaking, I > don't quite understand the need for local login authentication with > OpenPGPcard. For me, if I do some access control for my own PC, it > would be better to consider removing keyboard fr