Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX Workshop] The Web Rant Workshop

2010-04-28 Thread Orr Dunkelman
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> I disagree with the suggestion to hide the browser we use. >> >> If I, as a web muster that works with IE will get some complain, I will >> check it in IE. >> >> As a result I will find it a false complain and I will be angry with the >> dumb

Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX Workshop] The Web Rant Workshop

2010-04-27 Thread Shahar Dag
- Original Message - From: "Dotan Cohen" To: "Shahar Dag" Cc: "Haifux" Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX Workshop] The Web Rant Workshop >> I disagree with the suggestion to hide the browser we use. >> &

Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX Workshop] The Web Rant Workshop

2010-04-27 Thread Dotan Cohen
> I disagree with the suggestion to hide the browser we use. > > If I, as a web muster that works with IE will get some complain, I will > check it in IE. > > As a result I will find it a false complain and I will be angry with the > dumb user. > > On the other end if he would mention FireFox I wil

Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX Workshop] The Web Rant Workshop

2010-04-27 Thread Shahar Dag
check it with IE & with FireFox and at list verify the problem Shahar - Original Message - From: "Dotan Cohen" To: "Eli Billauer" Cc: "Haifux" Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX Workshop] The Web Rant Workshop >

Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX Workshop] The Web Rant Workshop

2010-04-27 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 26 April 2010 09:46, Amos Shapira wrote: > I'd appreciate to see a summary of the meeting and if there are any > follow-up actions here or maybe one of the foss web sites. > (I might have joined you on-line but it'll happen in my middle of the > night of a work day). > Hi Amos, this is what ha

Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX Workshop] The Web Rant Workshop

2010-04-27 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 26 April 2010 23:50, Eli Billauer wrote: > Orr Dunkelman wrote: > >> history shows that people approached >> webmasters as individuals, and usually it did not succeed. Maybe >> trying as a group would have a better effect. >> >> > Since the event is now over, I'd like to share my opinion about

Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX Workshop] The Web Rant Workshop

2010-04-26 Thread Orr Dunkelman
As Dotan pointed out in the meeting, the problems are going to slowly disappear, as both IE 9.0 is more "standard-friendly" and as more and more people browse using their mobile devices. At the same time, the more people complain, the faster the support would come. So if a tech junkie would compla

Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX Workshop] The Web Rant Workshop

2010-04-26 Thread cool-RR
I haven't been following this thread at all, but if you're criticizing Israeli sites, please include Pelephone's. One of their crimes: In their login page, if you press Enter instead of clicking the button, it won't work, and return you to the login screen without showing an error message. (So you

Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX Workshop] The Web Rant Workshop

2010-04-26 Thread Eli Billauer
Orr Dunkelman wrote: > history shows that people approached > webmasters as individuals, and usually it did not succeed. Maybe > trying as a group would have a better effect. > > Since the event is now over, I'd like to share my opinion about the whole web compatibility issue: In short, I thin

Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX Workshop] The Web Rant Workshop

2010-04-26 Thread Dotan Cohen
> Even though we haven't tried as a community to approach such > webmasters on a regular basis, history shows that people approached > webmasters as individuals, and usually it did not succeed. Maybe > trying as a group would have a better effect. > I disagree. I have contacted tens of sites, and

Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX Workshop] The Web Rant Workshop

2010-04-26 Thread Orr Dunkelman
Dotan hi, Even though we haven't tried as a community to approach such webmasters on a regular basis, history shows that people approached webmasters as individuals, and usually it did not succeed. Maybe trying as a group would have a better effect. Now, approaching several websites at the same t

Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX Workshop] The Web Rant Workshop

2010-04-26 Thread Dotan Cohen
> If you would like to have other means of communicating the current > "target", please let me know by private email. > Orr, we should _not_ all write to the websites at once! It will be obvious that a small group of zealots is "targeting" them. Rather, it should appear to the sites that there a

Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX Workshop] The Web Rant Workshop

2010-04-26 Thread Orr Dunkelman
Hi Everybody, To allow more people to join the rant workshop (even those who cannot come to the meeting physically), we shall "broadcast" the list of websites we're approaching using three means: 1. www.haifux.org/233/website.txt (which will be updated whenever we move to a new website - do not f

Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX Workshop] The Web Rant Workshop

2010-04-26 Thread Amos Shapira
I'd appreciate to see a summary of the meeting and if there are any follow-up actions here or maybe one of the foss web sites. (I might have joined you on-line but it'll happen in my middle of the night of a work day). Cheers, Amos On 4/25/10, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I wish that I had seen this mes

Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX Workshop] The Web Rant Workshop

2010-04-25 Thread Amos Shapira
And another tool for the evening - browsershots.com might help getting screenshots of the web sites on various browser/os combinations. -Amos On 4/26/10, Amos Shapira wrote: > I'd appreciate to see a summary of the meeting and if there are any > follow-up actions here or maybe one of the foss we

Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX Workshop] The Web Rant Workshop

2010-04-25 Thread Dotan Cohen
I wish that I had seen this message sooner. I have been contacting sites about this issue for years. I hope to be there at 18:30, there is a lot that we as a group can do together to convince these sites to change. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com _

Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX Workshop] The Web Rant Workshop

2010-04-23 Thread Oron Peled
On Thursday, 22 בApril 2010 10:47:42 Orr Dunkelman wrote: > Dear all, > > Next Monday, 26.4.10, at 18:30 we are going to have a rant workshop Great event! > where we will try to contact as many webmasters as possible and try > to convince them to offer a better support for FOSS browsers. It wou

[Haifux] [HAIFUX Workshop] The Web Rant Workshop

2010-04-22 Thread Orr Dunkelman
Dear all, Next Monday, 26.4.10, at 18:30 we are going to have a rant workshop where we will try to contact as many webmasters as possible and try to convince them to offer a better support for FOSS browsers. Please note that all you need to join the actual fun is a laptop, and that we encourage yo