[Hornlist] Re: what the heck is it?

2005-10-15 Thread MUMFORDHornworks
It is indeed a Buescher cornet. In the early 1900s, Conn made a similar model which is sometimes called a "crossover" model because of the way the connections between the valves cross over instead of just going in line from one to the next. In the 1870s, Conn made some way more outlandish lo

[Hornlist] Re: what the heck is it?

2005-10-16 Thread Hurricane Chinooks
I've never seen a Buescher model like this, but I do own a Conn Conn-Queror that also has added tubing between the first and third valves. On the Conn, the tube you see going from the first valve to the third valve acts as a compensator. I don't know for sure, but I would assume that they are bui

[Hornlist] RE: What The Heck Is It ?

2005-10-17 Thread Hurricane Chinooks
Frankly, I don't know. I don't think that air always passing through that piece of tubing. It may pass into it, but without both valves depressed it probably does not pass all the way through. You are correct in saying that it would only effect that pitch as much as a longer third valve slide

[Hornlist] Re: what the heck is it?

2005-10-17 Thread MUMFORDHornworks
These are not compensating instruments, see my previous post for the real story of what it is. Trust me, I've had many of them in my hands and I'm not speculating. Buescher did also make baritones and tubas that way. -Steve Mumford ___ post: horn@

[Hornlist] Re: what the heck is it?

2005-10-19 Thread Hurricane Chinooks
r why that is? Joyce > date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:07:53 EDT > from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > subject: [Hornlist] Re: what the heck is it? > > These are not compensating instruments, see my previous post for the real > story of what it is. Trust me, I've had many of th

[Hornlist] Re: What the heck is it? / Buescher Horns

2005-10-16 Thread Jay Kosta
I don't think the "Conn-Queror" (as shown @ http://www.cornetconnection.com/connqueror.htm ) really has compensation. If you look closely you'll see that there aren't any air passage-ways directly between the valve casings to allow a direct 'no valve' flow of air. The external loop from 1st to 3r