Re: Off Topic But Concept should be Known To All

2007-06-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/21/2007 at 01:13 PM, Barkow, Eileen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Was not the basis of VM/CMS to allow each user their own self-contained operating system? Even in the CP/67 days there were facilities for cooperation among virtual machines. There was a time when I

Re: Off Topic But Concept should be Known To All

2007-06-22 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Staller, Allan LOL, To carry this argument to it's logical conclusion, each application would have it's own OS snip Subject: Off Topic But Concept should be Known To All

Off Topic But Concept should be Known To All

2007-06-21 Thread Ken Brick
http://www.theregister.com/2007/06/20/usenix_07_opening_keynote/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: Off Topic But Concept should be Known To All

2007-06-21 Thread Staller, Allan
LOL, To carry this argument to it's logical conclusion, each application would have it's own OS snip Subject: Off Topic But Concept should be Known To All http://www.theregister.com/2007/06/20/usenix_07_opening_keynote/ /snip

Re: Off Topic But Concept should be Known To All

2007-06-21 Thread Richbourg, Claude
Isn't that what they do today in the Windows world??? Claude Richbourg Florida Department of Corrections Systems Programmer III 850-921-1383 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 8:18

Re: Off Topic But Concept should be Known To All

2007-06-21 Thread Shane
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 07:18 -0500, Staller, Allan wrote: LOL, To carry this argument to it's logical conclusion, each application would have it's own OS M - must be that time of year again for a(nother) microkernel vs. monolithic flame-fest. Shane ...

Re: Off Topic But Concept should be Known To All

2007-06-21 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 6/21/2007 7:18:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To carry this argument to it's logical conclusion, each application would have it's own OS Isn't that how google works? ** See what's free at

Re: Off Topic But Concept should be Known To All

2007-06-21 Thread Bill Wilkie
John: If you set your word marks properly, you did. Bill From: McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Off Topic But Concept should be Known To All Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 08:17:44 -0500

Re: Off Topic But Concept should be Known To All

2007-06-21 Thread Howard Brazee
On 21 Jun 2007 05:18:37 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Staller, Allan) wrote: LOL, To carry this argument to it's logical conclusion, each application would have it's own OS We have been redefining OS, application, and programming language and will continue to do so. Java is a type of

Re: Off Topic But Concept should be Known To All

2007-06-21 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Brick) writes: http://www.theregister.com/2007/06/20/usenix_07_opening_keynote/ the new, 40yr old theme, curtesy of the science center

Re: Off Topic But Concept should be Known To All

2007-06-21 Thread Kirk Talman
Amen! from my quote file: a statement not only false in itself, but one which casts doubt on all previous utterances from the same source. - H.P. Herbert q.Peter Hebblethwaite _NCR_92May8p14 IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 06/21/2007 09:17:44 AM: RIGHT!

Re: Off Topic But Concept should be Known To All

2007-06-21 Thread Mike Hill - Saffron Services
To carry this argument to it's logical conclusion, each application would have it's own OS It would be better to say that each application would have to include much of the operating suystem function within it. That would be too much to expect, especially with complex OS functions like

Re: Off Topic But Concept should be Known To All

2007-06-21 Thread Howard Brazee
On 21 Jun 2007 09:11:31 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: To carry this argument to it's logical conclusion, each application would have it's own OS It would be better to say that each application would have to include much of the operating suystem function within it. That would

Re: Off Topic But Concept should be Known To All

2007-06-21 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Was not the basis of VM/CMS to allow each user their own self-contained operating system? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 12:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Off Topic But

Re: Off Topic But Concept should be Known To All

2007-06-21 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip Was not the basis of VM/CMS to allow each user their own self-contained operating system? ---unsnip-- Yes and no. You could change parameters (sometimes) but the code was all contained in a shared segment of

Re: Off Topic But Concept should be Known To All

2007-06-21 Thread Howard Brazee
On 21 Jun 2007 10:13:22 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Was not the basis of VM/CMS to allow each user their own self-contained operating system? VM also gives other advantages which could be useful to be copied here.

Re: Off Topic But Concept should be Known To All

2007-06-21 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
McKown, John wrote: And its own customized mathematics subroutine library. Gee, didn't we have this with the 1401? I seem to recall the mathematical subroutine library on the 1401 a little wanting G Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT new e-mail address: gerhardp (at) charter (dot) net