Re: IETF58 - Network Status

2003-11-21 Thread Randall Gellens
I already indicated before: 100-150 Euros more is not a big issue. Other standards bodies charge very similar amounts for meetings, and also have very hefty annual membership fees. The IETF is in a very unusual position, as far as standards bodies goes, in that we strive for complete openness

Re: howto WLAN, several subnets

2003-11-21 Thread Andrew Partan
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 05:29:15PM +0100, Joel Jaeggli wrote: >>So instead of forcing key+essid on the clients, would setting the >>AP's MAC address on the clients be a solution? > >not really unless you want to want to be associated with one of 30 >aps for the entire conference... The problem I r

Re: howto WLAN, several subnets

2003-11-21 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Joel Jaeggli wrote: On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: So instead of forcing key+essid on the clients, would setting the AP's MAC address on the clients be a solution? not really unless you want to want to be associated with one of 30 aps for the entire conference... Right. So label t

Re: howto WLAN, several subnets

2003-11-21 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: > > So instead of forcing key+essid on the clients, would setting the AP's > MAC address on the clients be a solution? not really unless you want to want to be associated with one of 30 aps for the entire conference... > > In fact, the client ca

Re: howto WLAN, several subnets

2003-11-21 Thread Vernon Schryver
> From: Alexandru Petrescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ... > Rogue malicious wily ruthless users skilled enough to configure hostap > can rightfully be blamed; but not the novice user turning on > a particular vendor's laptop. That may be true in some situations, but should it be tolerated at the IETF?

RE: i18n name badges

2003-11-21 Thread Steve Silverman
As to the name badges, it seems to me that allowing an optional field on the registration form and name badge for name in Unicode seems eminently fair to those whose names use a Non-AASCII alphabet. As far as the bluesheets, I have been told that the only purpose for these is to estimate meeting

practical subnet sizes smaller than /26, /27, ...

2003-11-21 Thread John Martin
I'm looking for research / surveys on how enterprises and service providers really use subnetting within their networks. In particular, I'm interested in the size of subnets that people are regularly using and I'm interested in both public and private addressed networks (which I'm assuming, perh

Re: howto WLAN, several subnets

2003-11-21 Thread shogunx
> > > In fact, the client can't tell the difference between IBSS and BSS. > > Nor can Linux systems become IBSS systems without something like "hostap" > > (hostap is one way, wireless bridging might be another way I think.) one could have multiple wireless cards in one machine acting as acces

Re: howto WLAN, several subnets

2003-11-21 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Michael Richardson wrote: Why do you think that the helpful drivers that kept us coming up in IBSS mode (proper name for new "ad-hoc" mode) won't use the keys as well? Ok, I didn't know that. Further, as was said, it does nothing against malicious rogue APs? Rogue malicious wily ruthless users ski

Re: howto WLAN, several subnets

2003-11-21 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Michael Richardson wrote: "Alexandru" == Alexandru Petrescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Alexandru> If my node has mode "managed" it will never attach to laptop Alexandru> nodes Alexandru> having same key same essid but mode ad-hoc. No, that's isn't true. It is true for: "