Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-17 Thread Hector Santos
Lee Howard wrote: -Original Message- From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dave Cridland Consider: "An octet may contain 0-255". "An octet contains 0-255". "An octet might contain 0-255" - or it might not? "The Foo octet MUST lie between 0 and 127 in

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Re: [Gen-art] Gen-art last call review of draft-ietf-codec-opus-12.txt (completed)

2012-05-17 Thread Jean-Marc Valin
Hi Elwyn, We're submitted a -14 draft to address your comments. Again, see the response to each of these issues in the attached document. Thanks again, Jean-Marc On 12-05-16 05:26 PM, Elwyn Davies wrote: > Hi, Jean-Marc. > > ... and thanks for the super-quick response! You have been

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-art last call review of draft-ietf-codec-opus-12.txt (completed)

2012-05-17 Thread Elwyn Davies
Hi, Jean-Marc. ... and thanks for the super-quick response! You have been quite busy. I have had a look through the new draft and I think the additions help considerably with comprehension for the naive (and to give new implementers a way in.) I'll leave you to negotiate with the RFC Editor ove

RE: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-17 Thread Lee Howard
> -Original Message- > From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dave Cridland > Consider: > > "An octet may contain 0-255". > "An octet contains 0-255". > "An octet might contain 0-255" - or it might not? > "The Foo octet MUST lie between 0 and 127 inclusiv

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-art last call review of draft-ietf-codec-opus-12.txt (completed)

2012-05-17 Thread Cullen Jennings
I think the authors just about have a -14 draft ready but I wanted to comment on one topic inline On May 16, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Elwyn Davies wrote: > Hi, Jean-Marc. > > ... and thanks for the super-quick response! You have been quite busy. > > I have had a look through the new draft and

Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-17 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2012-05-16 22:29, Dave Cridland wrote: On Wed May 16 21:10:02 2012, Randy Bush wrote: > Authors must be fastidious about this. s/this/documents/ RFC 2119 §6 says: Imperatives of the type defined in this memo must be used with care and sparingly. In particular, they MUST only be used where

Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-17 Thread Tony Finch
Randy Bush wrote: > can != may > > one is ability, the other permission Right, and if you are giving some entity permission to do something in a protocol spec, surely that ought to be written in normative terms. Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finchhttp://dotat.at/ FitzRoy: Cyclonic at times in far n

Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-17 Thread Tony Finch
Andrew Sullivan wrote: > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 07:17:04AM -0700, Dave Crocker wrote: > > Case does not define meaning in normal language, why should it here? > > That is false. Consider these two passages: > > The King asked the Queen, > and the Queen asked the dairy-maid … > > vs > >

Re: RFC 2119 terms, ALL CAPS vs lower case

2012-05-17 Thread t . p .
- Original Message - From: "Doug Barton" To: Cc: "Barry Leiba" Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 7:18 AM > On 05/16/2012 06:59, Barry Leiba wrote: > > In fact, RFC 2119 says that the normative keywords are "often > > capitalized", but doesn't require that they be. > > Standards should be writ

Re: Last Call: (Guidelines for Defining Extensions to IODEF) to Informational RFC

2012-05-17 Thread SM
At 14:53 16-05-2012, The IESG wrote: The IESG has received a request from the Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange WG (mile) to consider the following document: - 'Guidelines for Defining Extensions to IODEF' as Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and s