The existing RFC creation/ratification process works so much better than
other structures I can't see a reason to tinker with it whatsoever.
Its a weridly beautiful comprimise that slices thru B.S. and gets things
that work, for a *really long time* (so far: forever) into play fast.
Boy.
Karl A said:
Anybody who wants a new TLD should have to pledge allegance to the
end-to-end principle (i.e. no new sitefinders) and promise to adhere to
applicable internet technical standards and practices.
Dan K says:
The idea of harvesting bad DNS accesses as a business plan never occured to
be
Dean Anderson said, and is
While finding prior art is hard problem in any field, it would be helpful
if the Patent Office hired more experts in the fields that they offer
patents in, and in particular, more computer scientists.
Dan says:
In the above, a chemist would substitute Chemist
The Electronic Frontier Foundation has proposed a scheme to decriminalize
file-swapping, whereby users would pay $5 a month in license fees. The
annual $3 billion this would net would compensate artists and record labels,
the group says. San Jose Mercury News (2/26), Wired (2/26)
Hi,
John S mentioned this micropayment scheme:
http://www.peppercoin.com/General/FAQAnswerPage.ppp?keyID=helpfaq/faqs/Abo
utPeppercointopicIndex=3
Interesting, but its really built on information goods specifically. Like
tradedoor crypto sprinkled with dollar value connections.
Thanks.
Robert Brown said:
Let's BUY the MTA server and two encryption nodes whose only job is to
ensure that the MTA queue never runs dry, each equipped with 600 GB in
RAID3. Let's see, that would be, hmm, less than $10K if one got gold
plated parts, less than $4K at my local OTC no-name computer store.
Further, any cost increase in email that is less than the cost of bulk
postal mail will not deter genuine spammers. But even the regular user
would feel the crunch if each email cost $0.37. If the IETF had to pay
$0.37 per email, or even $0.15 per email, its 2 million/yr or so budget
would not
: 4769498 First SIP call
Regards,
Dan Kolis
Masataka Ohta wrote about STUN
Is it a client server app or a P2P app?
Hi.
Well, I read the RFC in some detail, and it is an application which should
be on the public internet side on a stable server. Its clients could be
all kinds of processes/apps, from P2P programs mostly, but its a
About STUN:
Reading it, it would seem like the app could ask about itself and then
forward the real IP(s) and ports, avoiding having the STUN server get a
lot of hits. But this is a REAL workaround no matter what. That doesn't make
it a bad thing. The documents really clear that it is a way to
This really doesn't say much about the scalability of the
solution. What it indicates is how much effort people are
willing to go to to commit what is perceived as victimless crime.
Two things.
First, here in Canada there is a new tax on media like writable CD's;
(extendable to Memory cards, or
Michel said:
This is not true. Kaaza does not require to open any ports nor configure
anything in the NAT box. The latest versions of SIP using STUN don't
either.
Dan asks:
Yes indeed. Probably the #1 biggest use for STUN short term is going to be
SIP. It seems like not too much information has
I'm making a product from scratch shortly and think the tide has turned to
support IPv6 as much as possible. I haven't looked. Are Docsis Cable modems
2.0 IPv6 aware? How about MS operating systems?
If ISP's and cable ops didn't ration fixed IP's NAT wouldn't be so popular.
Its a way to evade an
Actually, I'm told by ISP people that they don't make money off their address
charges, that they basically just cover their own costs.
Noel
Bell Canada here charges $10 or so for a few fixed IP's per month. They are
bought for $0.60 US as a one time cost.
A pretty good cover.
Regs,
Dan
Dan
behind the scenes thing a little.
slightly different.
But I think your right if 10 years of waiting doesn't get an internet
innovation adopted much its at least sick and maybe dead.
regs
Dan
Dan Kolis - Lindsay Electronics Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
50 Mary Street West, Lindsay Ontario Canada K9V 2S7
Yup, it needs a killer app or feature. Bigger address space was that
feature, but one made moot by NATs.
VoIP and multimedia via SIP without having a resident network engineer in
your attic.
Enough said?
Dan
I was curious enough to read the contents of this URL, (about the U.N. about
to meet to do something or another with the information society):
http://www.itu.int/wsis
Site barely moves. We have good bandwidth and its 400 bit/S, says my browser.
So, for fun, I tried:
http://www.alpo.com/
.
Statistically, that means your 24 hour rollback might, often,
have zero effect. Now compare this to the change rate in some
very large ccTLD or gTLD, which is, I would assume, measured in
the thousands per day range.
john
Dan Kolis - Lindsay Electronics Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
50 Mary Street
. There was an outage in the switched telephone system much like
this about 12 years ago. None of the technocrats who could fix it could find
each other, so the outage persisted for a long time until an unnamed vendor!
bicyled new binaries to 400 phone switches.
regards
Dan
Dan Kolis - Lindsay Electronics
Greetings,
The cleaning people came through my building so I decided since I shouldn't
walk on there wet floors (until they dry), I might as well save the free
world with my unsolicited, amazing opinions.
The below I gather is the White House official policy on tinkering with
everything
Franck said:
Well to come back to my original comment, is that IETF, IANA and ICANN
by being individual members organisations do not have the front of
ITU, which is unfortunate as the Internet is not being done in ITU.
Governments have to understand that and for that dissociate themselves
from the
Hi
One paragraph to apologize about being aggressive about the ITU. So much
comes out of them as a group that is nessessary and excellent, I'm sorry to
be critical of their proposed increased role in internet. Stuff like AC-3
sound, the WARC process, is good work. Its not the people that slow it
Dean said:
But of course, governments have the sovereign right to control the
communications of their citizens...
Dan says:
Well, I don't agree. If you believe in speech divorced from action; (ex.
Commercial speech, inciting to riot, fraud), in which speech is a component
of an act...
Just
Dean said:
There are, though, good reasons to have some government controls on
telecom. Whether these controls are too excessive or too lax is not up to
ICANN or the ITU. I can think of cases were some good has come of it.
E911, for example. Radio, TV, cellphone allocations. Ham Radio
Any formal body has to have some jurisdiction in which it is constituted.
One can argue whether California non-profit law is better or worse than
being a UN entity. I believe there are arguments against the latter as much
as there may arguments against the former.
The IETF is about as close as
I'm hoping for a 'change of faith' based on the $100 Million lawsuit.
I can't believe anyone capable of doing this, would do this. Even the paper
newspapers get this is somehow a bad development; (ie wall st journal).
Proves ICANN is not interested in the integrity of the DNS to have permitted
Dan said earlier:
Proves ICANN is not interested in the integrity of the DNS to have
permitted this.
Marc said is reasponse (to some extent):
ICANN is probably busy trying to find a way to copyright the root domain.
Everyone wants his slice of the unlimited possibilities for manufactured
Pete Resnick at Qualcomm tells me/us of POP3 extensions:
RFC 2449: POP3 Extension Mechanism.
and
POP already has authentication (RFC 1734) and TLS (RFC 2595), but I
don't think that's what you're talking about. I don't see how crypto
or authentication apply to spam in the context of POP here.
Harold I / Dan K said:
A *lot* of POP-using programs have the Leave Mail On Server option.
And a lot of people have used Leave Mail On Server as a poor man's
1-folder IMAP, leading POP providers to implement mail retaining policies
of the RETR it once and it's gone, whether you DELEted it or
John K said:
I am pretty sure Vint knows what the protocol says. So,
certainly, do I.
In the real world, several ISPs have insisted that their servers
provide an implicit DELE after messages have been successfully
downloaded and the connection closed. If leaving the mail on
the server (not
Greg Cunningham said:
Personally I would be more interested in a cellular phone that would hop to
a private home network signal.
Once you get home (or within a 1/2 mile or so) you the cell phone becomes
an extension in your house.
Would be even nicer if the line went out, and the phone company
Masataka Ohta and/or Simon said:
You should, at least, distinguish VoIP as a telephone network
and the Internet telephony.
In Japan, TAs to connect the Internet and POTS telephone devices
are rapidly replacing the telephone network including VoIP ones.
a. VoIP is telephony and should be regulated.
I think SIP does more things that are fun rather than only things that are
useful.
This matters all the time; Not just when there is an earthquake, etc.
Spending and planning, not technology per se determines whether things work
in an emergency.
Besides, the future is long. What familiar now
with more sizzle (and
accuracy) than poor peoples phone services.
While on the subject... Has anybody seen a fer sure count of how many LDAP
or RR named persons are out there for SIP names? Obviously, that's one
bottleneck for SIP that's hard to overcome.
regs,
Dan
Dan Kolis - Lindsay
Since SIP is IETF not ITU its only reasonable to have internet believers
lean towards it.
H.323 ? Ahhh no thanks.
No serious look at these can even consider H.323 etc and its derivitives as
useful in the general case. The only reason they were used is the absence of
a better alternative.
Try to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...IPv6 over telepathy
Dan says:
Wow! I had that idea yesterday; (It's almost like you where reading my mind) !!!
Scoundrel!
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:35:42 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Kolis) said:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...IPv6 over telepathy
Dan says:
Wow! I had that idea yesterday; (It's almost like you where reading my mind)
!!!
The draft for IPv6 over telepathy strongly recommends the use of IPSEC in
multi-hop
Lots of users don't like you have to be connected to IMAP to do routine
things fulltime.
If your paying by the minute for CDMA2000, (for instance), getting frozen
out of doing anything when your not connected turns people off.
Network people like the reduced traffic on the network for POP logins
It was said about IMAP versus POP mail:
Perhaps those folks should use an implementation that can manipulate mail
offline and then sync with the server later.
Dan says:
The group I know have an information technology group which raid and
confiscate anything they don't install. They terrorize
Hi,
A little off the center of the road, but that's nothing new here.
As users tend to use HTTP email accounts; (for privacy, flirting, whatever)
in enterprises this makes it hard to snag viruses to some extent.
If the preferred solution in some server farm of linux and NT's whatever
is
Said presumably moments ago:
we (the e-mail producing/consuming community) have the technology, we have
the collective wit and wisdom, we have the proven commercial value of the
service. what we lack, dear ietf, is simply: leadership.
Paul Vixie
Dan (Me) says. Well. I like Short Message Service
Said today:
In a major example of false positives, we already have examples of one
real cost of spam. AOL (as one example of many) has declared ranges of
IP addresses marked 'residential' as invalid for running a particular
application. In this case SMTP, but which app is next? There is a 'guilt
is a voluntary method
by which they can reduce or limit their support expenses on customers who
are not paying extra for the initiate SMTP service.
if you don't believe that comcast ought to have the ability to control how
its services are used, then your recourse is the local PUC, and the FCC.
Dan Kolis
is on the CC line and the leading comments. Thanks for WWW access
to this code!
Regards to all,
Dan Kolis
// lilplasma.c
// my non-vpu-using first attempt at PS2 graphics.
// inefficient, but pretty!
//
// - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
// (or) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
// to compile:
// cc -o lilplasma lilplasma.c
COM is a failed experiment and needs to be closed and/or eliminated.
What about X.400 ???
Regards,
Dan
Seems like there is a sort of mail loop or some nasty business on this list.
I like my ideas enough to hope to see them repeated here: once. If you get
an extra serving. Sorry. its not me doing it.
Well, if you *never* pay a ransom, you *never* give to a panhandler and
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Hmmm. Very interesting material here on economics and traffic
analysis. I remember when I heard as a young teen Kruschev and
Kennedy agreed and primarily designed Intelsat, that anything upon
which those guys agreed with
but, for
one thing, there is real value in the big pipes. The general public thinks
this is Enron II. Its completely different.
Yea, off topic, but it effects this community,
Dan
(KL: This was sent to the Internet Engineering Task Force reflector)
Dan Kolis - Lindsay Electronics Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED
software will strand them on ocassion.
Regs to all,
Dan
Dan Kolis - Lindsay Electronics Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
50 Mary Street West, Lindsay Ontario Canada K9V 2S7
(705) 324-2196 X 268 (705) 324-5474 Fax
An ISO 9001 Company; SCTE Member ISM-127194
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Tony Hain [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Mobility is not the only reason to use DDNS. Consider the case of Dan's
residential gateway. If it provided a consumer-friendly automated DDNS
server for a sub-domain delegated to the residence, what are the hard
issues? First would be security, but that is
Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] suggested a URL about dynamic relocation and the
DNS at:
http://ops.ietf.org/dns/dynupd/secure-ddns-howto.html
Its very interesting and a bit over my head, perhaps. Maybe its a friday
document!
Why Dynamic Update?
Dynamic update proposes to provide a workable
Ed Gerck or Vint Cerf said:
Since the cat can, and indeed may, go back to the
bag in this case, it seems to be in our best interest
to find ways to induce trust without recourse to
control (or fear of) as the only solution.
Dan says:
Oh. Cats back into the bags? Easier to say then do.
Seemingly of interest specifically to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 08:57 PM 1/21/2002 -0800, Lixia Zhang wrote:
Note I am not saying MPLS is the right solution for the problem.
To me the right solution to the above mentioned problem should be a
multi-path
[EMAIL PROTECTED] asks in jest:
Of course its true: no amount of QOS can generate any additional bandwidth
But is the converse also true?
Seriously though I say:
Huh? If its free... QoS = not having QoS because everybody's app will ask
for it.
If there is a tarriffed QoS service every process
hi,
Cablemodem means you would like info on DOCSIS (Data
Over Cable Systems Interface Specs) right!! Well i
guess DOCSIS 1.1 is currrent. Following are the MIBs
for DOCSIS:
Hi
Probably full specs in PDF (about 800 pages in pieces by ISO layer) at:
http://www.cablelabs.org
but you have to poke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Of course, cable companies probably won't impose rate limits as long as DSL
remains an option, because then they wouldn't be able to claim
(inaccurately) that cable gives you more bandwidth than DSL. At least
publicly ... In Canada, several cable carriers put rate limits
Hello,
Does this email reflector pass through plan text attachments to all? I sort
of think its a strength of the odd email community that it gets off topic
*some*. FOr instance I really found the dialog I just got about 3D
teleconferencing interesting and want to post it, but think, Hmmm pretty
Why isn't the Internet and 3D technology used for the IETF meetings ?
The Next Generation IPv8 Internet has that. Why is the IPv4 Internet
Ok. MBone or not, Mime type or not, whatever. Is there some 3D imaging thing
that actually exists for teleconferencing actual people I don't know about?
A
This thing is a university type experimental gadget, It's completely
irrelivant to this forum, but I would sure like to have one.
http://www.evl.uic.edu/research/vrdev.html
On the Internet planning side, I'd guess a three sided box of projection
TV's and a camera and whatnot is probably 10
Greetings,
I'm looking at techniques of moving 802.11B traffic on and off two way Cable
TV systems.
Most proposals try to avoid any serious store and forward and instead want
high response systems which are somewhat coarse. This may gnaw off the
leading edge of packets and protract the trailing
Greetings to all,
The useful Internet traffic report which sort of graphs ping like info
including packet loss, etc shows some network congestion around 19:30 GMT (0
Zulu) about 4 hours wide. I've attached one of the packet loss graphics. For
others the URL is:
It was said by [EMAIL PROTECTED] earlier today:
There has been many disaster happening in the past, like in Turkey, or
like in Taiwan earthquake where a submarine cable was cut. I think it is
time that the Internet become serious and reliable and that the IETF
work on internet and disaster to
Hello, See:
Operation, Administration, and Maintenance
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/atm/c8540/12_1/peregrin/sw_c
onfg/op_maint.htm#30838
Good luck. If you didn't get a good overview it will be a crapshoot to write
a program to do it.
Hmmm, hope the above helps.
Let me
Thoughts from Paul as { [EMAIL PROTECTED] } begin with
those from myself with { [EMAIL PROTECTED] }
Thanks for your thinking. I don't want to overburden this list with items
which might best be discussed elsewhere, so if there is a perception this
goes on and on, just email me and I'll move it
Harald Tveit Alvestrand [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
actually the cheapest place, hotel-price-wise, to hold IETFs would probably
be in a tourist trap on the off-season (the Riviera in October, after all
the bathers have gone home, but before the staff leaves the hotel...)
I say:
a field getting a fair amount of attention seens not
to have mush pseudo-formal input.
Regards,
Dan Kolis
appreciate
the allocation).
Dan Kolis
protocols perfected in the absence
of knowing how to apply them. Subtle work.
I'd liek to do more of substance other than theorize. I think I will study
the concepts behine unicode this weekend and try to develop a better
understanding of that work.
Regards to all,
Dan Kolis
Dan Kolis - Lindsay E
Dan Kolis [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
One reason the IDN thing is so daunting is the work arounds are not that
bad. For instance, you can embed a backgroundless GIF into a web page and
have any ideogram link to a URL. That's nearly ideal in many ways.
Keith Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
only
Matt Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
If the world had asked you or me to design an international
language, I think either of us would have done better.
Dan Kolis [EMAIL PROTECTED] says:
Well in biblical theology; I've heard it goes like this: Everyone on earth
(well on the building site
foobarr,
or a systemic misunderstanding. The cause of non connectivity is a new axis
of freedom for error.
regards,
Dan Kolis
And the lawyers would insist that something like:
180.035.069.037
would spell 1-800-Flowers and try to reserve an IP address based on that name.
oh,
That's ridiculous! Besides, 180.035.069.037 is already taken. It spells
"Isotoner gloves" ... everybody knows that.
Dan K
ot;snömos.se", I really want people to be able to get to
http://www.snömos.se
So, if I think it is perfectly all right to have
http://www.bq--abzw55tnn5zq.se
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Dan Kolis [EMAIL PROTECTED] says:
Now we are getting down to the nuts and bolts of the feeling
In the present regime, its not surprising the frist below does not resolve
and the second does:
http://www.déjà.fr/
http://www.deja.fr/
In the proposed regime, its not obvious what to do from a purely consumer
point of view. Verisigns view would be each is completely unique. ICANN's
dispute
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