jBPM offers two different process languages. Any of them let you to orchestrate
web services. BPEL is fully oriented to web services, but it does not let you
directly incorporate user tasks or Java components. Conversely, jPDL lets you
easily incorporate Java code and human intervention. Current
thank you!
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So I have another question...
Is it feasible to implement a system to monitor the processes with jBPM?
Is it better using BPEL or jPDL?
I have to do it in approximately 4,5 months.
Thanks,
Dario
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define "to monitor the processes" in more detail. Look at 3.2 webconsole there
are already some things in there.
BPEL or JPDL depends on what you want to achieve. The console works for both
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I mean "process monitoring" as having a web interface (implemented with flash,
or ajax, or others) where I can see, at run time, the evolution of objects
each time that they receive a web service of my business process. This
evolution might be represented by icons colors, or icons changes, or s
This is partly what I meant with define 'process monitoring" The thing is that
it can be looked at so broadly that not everything you want is in there. If
with "the evolution of objects" yuou mean the processvariables etc then
yes, that is in there
The ILogs demo is an example of such broad
Actually I'm just starting in using business processes, jbpm, and all this, and
I'm exploring the solutions, so I'm sorry if I place stupid questions... :)
Well, I try to explain better.
Firstly, my "objects" are documents (application forms, motivation letters, CV,
etc...)
Imagine a document to
All info you need is indeed in the process log and process variables (some
variables must be filled by you, but that is what workflow/process flow is all
about)
Animated it is currently not. Just static info. Look at the webconsole of 3.2
to see how this info can be used.
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Hi again,
please, tell me if i got it.
With jBPM :
. you can have a static bpel scenario
. but there is not a ready plug in which makes a dashboards of my business
process (business activity monitoring) for run time monitoring
. you can develop a (maybe simple) dashboard your self using Java API
dashboard is such a broad term that you have to define that. The upcomming
webconsole can show you some statistics, but maybe not all what you want. The
log is in the DB
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So if I understand correctly, there's no such API that would help me to access
the runtime evolution of a bpel scenario.
One solution you're proposing is to look into the bpel process log file or DB,
which does not seem very convenient ...
I thought there would be some facilities provided to ac
Depends on what your definition of running is a running jpdl/bpel process
can be in a state of doing nothing. Waiting for external input. Should that be
kept in memory? Would be a nice requirement although it would highly conflict
with one of the other requirements: high volume of running pr
Ok...
I'll try to explain better...
I want a web page.
In this web page I want to show a BPEL scenario.
I want this BPEL scenario to be dynamic, it means I also want to represent the
changes at run time. I think that, client side, the dynamism can be obtained by
using ajax technology. The refre
Where do I get the console subproject?
I have couple of BPEL processes running on JBPM now and would like to see them
at runtime as I am sending requests. I am not expecting graphical UI. Just
variables values is fine.
Thank you,
Meghana
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STFF, it is in 3.2, currently in beta
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"meghanai_99" wrote :
| Where do I get the console subproject?
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Me too i'm interested in this question, but I didn't understand the answer of
kukeltje.
And what is the web console? I'm searching for it but i've not found it. Is it
a plug in, something to download and install, or is it so
Sorry, to prevent getting flamed, I'm not going to answer this anyone?
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Not all of the doc is in the download - be sure to scout around the site for
other stuff.
In this case, you didn't check the wiki... see
http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=JbpmGettingStarted. I highly
recommend performing the walkthrough in it. I'm not sure, but I think I'm a
little su
Yes, i've checked the wiki, I've followed all the steps.
But I didn't understand what is the web console? Is it the web page where I
can arrive with the link "monitoring"?
And also... is it possible to modify the web pages and above all the scenarios
which I have after deploying the process
I apologize for my ignorance but what is STFF which is currently in 3.2?
I tried searching the JBoss site and it found me couple of forum threads where
STFF is mentioned, nothing more.
Thank you,
Meghana
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Hello estaub,
The wiki talks about installation when you have downloaded JBPM starter's kit.
In my case I have downloaded JBoss 4.0.5GA and JBPM-BPEL extension 1.1 beta3.
Like I said I have installed couple of BPEL processes already so the setup is
right. The JBPM engine is already on JBoss. Wh
That class is in the main jbpm jar in jbpm-3.1.2.jar, as distributed.
I don't know how you'd be missing it.
Maybe you've got multiple versions of jbpm*.jar in your classpath, and one of
them doesn't use that class?
-Ed Staub
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When I looked up STFF on http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STFF
Acronym Definition
| STFF Search The/This Freaking Forum (polite form)
| STFF Safeguard Tactical Field Force
| STFF South Texas Funding Forum
| STFF Superficial Temporal Fascial Flap
I'm not s
Yes I copied that jar already but get different exception now.
I did not have that jar already installed on my JBoss since I had installed
both JBoss and Jbpm-BPEL extension separately. I downloaded JBPM core 3.1.4 now
and copied that jar file to my lib folder in JBoss. Now I get this exception
The console is a module of the jBPM jPDL installation. jBPM BPEL 1.1.Beta3
builds on jBPM 3.2.Beta1, so that is the distribution you are looking for.
Please visit the sourceforge file releases. Once you unzip the distribution, go
to jbpm-jpdl-3.2.Beta1/deploy and you will find the console there.
Is it possible to invoke external web services from the BPEL in jBPM?
tx,
Dario
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Yes you can invoke external webservices. That is what BPEL is used for ...for
service orchestration.
Alex,
Thanks for pointing out that console doesn't have support for BPEL yet which I
kind of knew from my investigation that I did 2-3 months ago. While reading
this thread I got the impression
Sorry, I've got a mistake, i've quickly posted the last question and I got
confused...
I wanted to know if is it possible to invoke external web services from the
jPDL, not from BPEL...
I've used the getting started with jbpm and I designed a little process as
found in there. So I have some t
Dario, I hope you've seen the abbreviation STFF a few times in this forum
this question has been asked and answered over a thousand times
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Dario,
To the best of my knowledge, there's no support for web services in JBPM proper.
Ronald,
Have you ever actually tried to search for this? Finding a message that isn't
about BPEL is difficult. I suspect that the search engine may not be doing
"NOT" correctly - at least, I couldn't get i
Ed... Uhmm yes and no, Never used the word 'not' in the forum search. I often
use google. could be that the keyword not is not working. That would be a
shame. Still... people should at least try to search this fine forum, and if
nothing comes up, post a question and MENTION they did not find any
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