Re: [jdev] SoC idea: providing multiplexing support

2008-03-18 Thread Jefferson Ogata
this idea on my SoC application, so any input would be greatly appreciated. I think you can accomplish this already using RDP, VNC, or screen. -- Jefferson Ogata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> NOAA Computer Incident Response Team (N-CIRT) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Never try to retriev

Re: [jdev] Why STARTTLS? [was: IMPORTANT www.jabber.org software listings]

2008-02-25 Thread Jefferson Ogata
On 2008-02-26 00:00, Alexander Gnauck wrote: Jefferson Ogata schrieb: How, exactly, do you know? I.e. what specific prenegotiation informs the XMPP server which domain certificate to use? Traditional STARTTLS (e.g. in ESMTP and LDAP), AFAIK, has no such provision; this would have to be an

Re: [jdev] Why STARTTLS? [was: IMPORTANT www.jabber.org software listings]

2008-02-25 Thread Jefferson Ogata
tandards@, though. If the protocol provided certificate CN prenegotiation there would be at least *one* argument in favor of using STARTTLS. If, as you say, XMPP provides no such capability, then it's a no-brainer that STARTTLS is the WRONG approach. I know you hate receiving responses li

Re: [jdev] Why STARTTLS? [was: IMPORTANT www.jabber.org software listings]

2008-02-25 Thread Jefferson Ogata
On 2008-02-25 15:50, Tomasz Sterna wrote: Dnia 2008-02-25, Pn o godzinie 15:13 +, Jefferson Ogata pisze: That reminds me: I've been wondering why Jabber folks have been encouraging STARTTLS? In general, STARTTLS has the flaw of allowing misconfigured clients (of any protocol) to tra

Re: [jdev] Why STARTTLS? [was: IMPORTANT www.jabber.org software listings]

2008-02-25 Thread Jefferson Ogata
ntage does STARTTLS provide to offset these annoyances? -- Jefferson Ogata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> NOAA Computer Incident Response Team (N-CIRT) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Never try to retrieve anything from a bear."--National Park Service

Re: [jdev] Financial messaging via XMPP

2008-01-25 Thread Jefferson Ogata
, and besides, any SSL/TLS transport will nullify that with compression automatically. There's also always CDATA and &#-style encoding for binary data, but that doesn't let you send \0. -- Jefferson Ogata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> NOAA Computer Incident Response Team (N-CIR

Re: [jdev] jabber server name by ip

2006-07-22 Thread Jefferson Ogata
On 2006-07-22 11:44, Oleg Motienko wrote: > Does anybody know a method of discovering jabber server name by ip > address if port 5269/tcp is opened and jabber server listening there? I believe you could start TLS and check the certificate cn, though that wouldn't be definitive. --

Re: [jdev] service banners?

2006-07-19 Thread Jefferson Ogata
mply send back the confirming reply automatically. The server has one more state to track. Thanks for giving it some thought. -- Jefferson Ogata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> NOAA Computer Incident Response Team (N-CIRT) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Never try to retrieve anything from a bear."--National Park Service

Re: [jdev] service banners?

2006-07-19 Thread Jefferson Ogata
ed. Putting it on servers is a better > idea. I'll leave the question of whether this is technically possible > to the rest of you guys. The requirements for the clients are pretty minimal, as far as I can see. But let's see how the discussion goes... -- Jefferson Ogata &l

Re: [jdev] service banners?

2006-07-19 Thread Jefferson Ogata
nd then having clients present it to the user before logging in. The original question was simply whether this was in the protocol definition anywhere, and I think Peter answered quite clearly right off the top. -- Jefferson Ogata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> NOAA Computer Incident Response Team

Re: [jdev] service banners?

2006-07-18 Thread Jefferson Ogata
On 2006-07-19 02:00, Hal Rottenberg wrote: > On 7/18/06, Jefferson Ogata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Is there any provision in XMPP or JEPs for service banners? By this I >> mean proper banners such as are supported by ssh2, as well as >> traditional protocol

[jdev] service banners?

2006-07-18 Thread Jefferson Ogata
here. -- Jefferson Ogata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> NOAA Computer Incident Response Team (N-CIRT) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Never try to retrieve anything from a bear."--National Park Service

Re: [jdev] s2s lookup cascades

2006-07-12 Thread Jefferson Ogata
On 07/12/2006 06:02 AM, Benjamin Podszun wrote: > Jefferson Ogata wrote: >> I do have a concern about the RFC, in the details of cn matching >> performed when SRV records are involved. While clearly you do the right >> thing in ignoring the hostname returned in an SRV record

Re: [jdev] s2s lookup cascades

2006-07-11 Thread Jefferson Ogata
On 2006-07-06 22:34, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > Jefferson Ogata wrote: >>> On 07/06/2006 06:21 PM, Tomasz Sterna wrote: >>>> On 7/4/06, Norman Rasmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> Most jabber servers seem to give up and _not_ do the dns cascade, b

Re: [jdev] s2s lookup cascades

2006-07-06 Thread Jefferson Ogata
Given jabber clients' genearlly poor support of SSL/TLS certificate verification (kudos to Psi for doing it right), resistance to DNS-based attacks seems like a definite non-priority for the jabber community. -- Jefferson Ogata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> NOAA Computer Incident Response Team (N-C