Re: Fwd: [LARTC] HTB Weird Shaping Question(Bug?). Please Help!

2005-04-27 Thread Simon Byrnand
There is always the fact that ADSL is half duplex where as SDSL is full duplex. You would see this as a problem if you were trying to download something and upload something at the same time. Your circuit can only do one thing at a time thus somethi ng will have to wait. You will see this

Re: Fwd: [LARTC] HTB Weird Shaping Question(Bug?). Please Help!

2005-04-27 Thread Taylor, Grant
Err, since when is ADSL half duplex ? News to me :) I think you'll find if you read up on (A)DSL that it is in fact full duplex. Going from memory, the frequency range from 25Khz up to 1.1Mhz is broken up into a fairly large number of subcarriers (52 I think ?) and some subcarriers are used for

Re: Fwd: [LARTC] HTB Weird Shaping Question(Bug?). Please Help!

2005-04-27 Thread Andy Furniss
Taylor, Grant wrote: Err, since when is ADSL half duplex ? News to me :) I think you'll find if you read up on (A)DSL that it is in fact full duplex. Going from memory, the frequency range from 25Khz up to 1.1Mhz is broken up into a fairly large number of subcarriers (52 I think ?) and some

Re: Fwd: [LARTC] HTB Weird Shaping Question(Bug?). Please Help!

2005-04-27 Thread Jason Boxman
On Wednesday 27 April 2005 14:56, Andy Furniss wrote: snip It is very easy to make it look like it though, just start an upload while downloading something and watch your down rate fall apart. This is TCP and the fact that adsl modems tend to have huge buffers not the link. The first thing to

Re: Fwd: [LARTC] HTB Weird Shaping Question(Bug?). Please Help!

2005-04-27 Thread Andy Furniss
Leo Huang wrote: What you have said makes absolute sense to me. However, I only reserved 136Kbit for the VoIP traffic, there are 44Kbit available even we assume the 180Kbit is the maximum. Why doesn't HTB allocate the 44Kbit to the class for ping traffic, which only require rate 4Kbit and 0.5

Fwd: [LARTC] HTB Weird Shaping Question(Bug?). Please Help!

2005-04-26 Thread Leo Huang
Oops, forgot to post to the group... -- Forwarded message -- From: Leo Huang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Apr 27, 2005 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [LARTC] HTB Weird Shaping Question(Bug?). Please Help! To: Andy Furniss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Andy, What you have said makes absolute sense

Re: Fwd: [LARTC] HTB Weird Shaping Question(Bug?). Please Help!

2005-04-26 Thread Taylor, Grant
What you have said makes absolute sense to me. However, I only reserved 136Kbit for the VoIP traffic, there are 44Kbit available even we assume the 180Kbit is the maximum. Why doesn't HTB allocate the 44Kbit to the class for ping traffic, which only require rate 4Kbit and 0.5 Kbit? Some of this