Re: [LEAPSECS] Civil timekeeping before 1 January 1972

2015-03-07 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 14:14:07 -0500, Brooks Harris wrote: > Hi Gerard, > > On 2015-03-07 12:04 PM, G Ashton wrote: >> >> Brooks Harris wrote on Saturday, March 7, 2015 11:50 : >> . >> . >> "The challenge I'm trying to solve is to provide a deterministic >> timekeeping >> and labeling scheme for d

Re: [LEAPSECS] Civil timekeeping before 1 January 1972

2015-03-07 Thread Steve Allen
On Sat 2015-03-07T14:14:07 -0500, Brooks Harris hath writ: > It is typically warned that date and time before 1972 cannot be > accurately represented with NTP or POSIX, for examples. I would say that for PTP * all seconds are always SI seconds * seconds after 1972-01-01 correspond to (TAI - 10) *

Re: [LEAPSECS] Civil timekeeping before 1 January 1972

2015-03-07 Thread Brooks Harris
Hi Gerard, On 2015-03-07 12:04 PM, G Ashton wrote: Brooks Harris wrote on Saturday, March 7, 2015 11:50 : . . "The challenge I'm trying to solve is to provide a deterministic timekeeping and labeling scheme for date and time *after* 1972-01-01T00:00:00Z (UTC) = 1972-01-01T00:00:10 (TAI). This i

[LEAPSECS] Civil timekeeping before 1 January 1972

2015-03-07 Thread G Ashton
Brooks Harris wrote on Saturday, March 7, 2015 11:50 : . . "The challenge I'm trying to solve is to provide a deterministic timekeeping and labeling scheme for date and time *after* 1972-01-01T00:00:00Z (UTC) = 1972-01-01T00:00:10 (TAI). This is essentially the purpose of "civil time" timekeeping

Re: [LEAPSECS] My FOSDEM slides

2015-03-07 Thread Brooks Harris
On 2015-03-06 08:30 PM, Paul Hirose wrote: On 2015-03-06 11:04, Brooks Harris wrote: The "rubber-band era" is just entirely irrelevant. Its historically interesting, and may be required for some special application concerning that period, but for practical "UTC-like" timekeeping its just an hist

Re: [LEAPSECS] My FOSDEM slides

2015-03-07 Thread G Ashton
A general API that deals with old dates should allow for the possibility the original observation was stated in apparent solar time. Or, an explicit warning should be provided that the authors of the API believed that for the intended applications, given the limited accuracy of local time standa