Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

> > > these programs operate as you describe > > > > Okay, then they *do* use (essentially) the same method as Lilypond, > > not some "visually-oriented" method which "follows the key > signature"...> > > Not so. In Sibelius, you put the key signature, e.g. F sharp > major, then > type > the pl

Re: chord durations

On Aug 31, 2009, at 10:19 PM, Christian Henning wrote: \chordmode { g1 | g4..:sus4 g2 | \break bes1 | b4..:sus4 bes2 } Both your second and fourth bars are short one 16th note - maybe you meant \set chordChanges = ##t %only show chord changes (ie. not repeated chords)

Re: chord durations

On 01.09.2009, at 04:19, Christian Henning wrote: \chordmode { g1 | g4..:sus4 g2 | Here is your problem. Another way of writing this would be: g1 | g4~ g8~ g16 g2 The second measure is missing a 16th note. James E. Bailey ___ lilypond-

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

> > these programs operate as you describe > > Okay, then they *do* use (essentially) the same method as Lilypond, > not some "visually-oriented" method which "follows the key signature"... > Not so. In Sibelius, you put the key signature, e.g. F sharp major, then type the plain letter names, e.g.

Re: chord durations

Hi there, first of all thanks to everyone who replied. I really appreciate every reply. For a start, I would like to describe what I'm really after. I have some songs, mostly transcribed by my guitar teacher, which I like to transform into sheet music. I have every songs on a piece of paper writte

Re: Lilypond Speed

> "Han-Wen" == Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: Han-Wen> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Peter Han-Wen> Chubb wrote: >> I think you'll find the main difference is in size of L2/L3 cache, >> and amount of RAM.  Lily (like many object-oriented programs) tends >> to have quite a deep stack, and to use

Re: Lilypond Speed

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Peter Chubb wrote: > I think you'll find the main difference is in size of L2/L3 cache, > and amount of RAM.  Lily (like many object-oriented programs) tends to > have quite a deep stack, and to use lots of memory --- which it > visits in what looks to the processo

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

> Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 07:21:34 -0700 > From: Kees van den Doel > Subject: Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > >From: Kieren MacMillan > > Hi David R, > > > > > AFAIK, all of the graph

Re: linking render frames in Scribus

Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: I checked this at my installation (1.3.5.0) There is a clear bug: if you change the page attribute for one image, it also changes for the other. Have you submitted a bug report for scribus about this? no, can you do it? actually, I tried to send an email

one bar number per system

I would like Lilypond to print one bar number per system, except the first. The default behavior appears to be to print one bar number per system, except the first, for systems that begin at a measure break. Systems that begin in mid-measure (e.g. due to \bar "") do not get a bar number on the fi

Re: linking render frames in Scribus

I checked this at my installation (1.3.5.0) There is a clear bug: if you change the page attribute for one image, it also changes for the other. Have you submitted a bug report for scribus about this? Federico Bruni wrote: Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: Checking the Embed will not raste

Re: Lilypond Speed

> "Nick" == Nick Payne writes: Nick> As I have just had a rather powerful evaluation server to play Nick> around with for a few days while I tested our various Windows Nick> and Linux server builds on it, I thought I'd also take the Nick> opportunity to compare the build speed of a reasonably

Re: making a book with LilyPond

Ian Hulin wrote: Federico, Put the \include "english.ly" call in your top-level file instead (see below) Hi Ian, I've tried that, but this way I get another error concerning variables (all my included files - the real ones, not the examples posted here - have two variables). This is a t

Re: making a book with LilyPond

Federico, Put the \include "english.ly" call in your top-level file instead (see below) Cheers, Ian Federico Bruni wrote: Hi Jan, thanks for your reply. Actually, I had tried \bookpart (see the 1st example below, in my first email) but I have problems with \include. If in the included f

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

On 31 Aug 2009, at 19:50, Arne Peters wrote: Using the QWERTY way (QWERTZ in German layout keyboard) does indeed work the visual way in programs like MuseScore, and Sibelius 5. Depending on the key signature, for example a keyboard stroke "d" gives either "des "d" or "dis". There is the f

Re: chord durations

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Tim McNamara wrote: [...] > You appear to be trying to learn sheet music and LilyPond simultaneously. >  It would go faster to learn the rules of Western sheet music first- the > fundamentals are actually pretty easy and you can readily find most of the > informati

\bookpart and the "\include trouble"

[sorry for opening a new thread on the same matter, but I thought a more precise subject was needed] I'm trying to compile several different scores into a book, using a new file (book.ly) and \bookpart. I can't get it working if in the scores there are some \include. The error messages says t

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

At 13:39 on 31 Aug 2009, David Raleigh Arnold wrote: > How is insisting on one mode of pitch entry any different from > insisting on every note having its duration number? Or insisting on > specifying an octave with each note, ruling out relative pitch? How > is \followKeySignature any different

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

Hi David, The initial impulse for the negative attitude, which has prevented any thought of how the thing could and should be done, is simple laziness. I can't speak for anyone else, but I *have* put thought into how this could be done in Lilypond, and ultimately decided not that it CAN'T

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

Using the QWERTY way (QWERTZ in German layout keyboard) does indeed work the visual way in programs like MuseScore, and Sibelius 5. Depending on the key signature, for example a keyboard stroke "d" gives either "des "d" or "dis". regards Arne Peters, Berlin (reading the whole slightly baffled an

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

On Friday 28 August 2009, David Rogers wrote: > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:58, Kieren > MacMillan wrote: > > Hi David (et al), > > > > Just to be absolutely clear, the fallacy in your argument lies in the > > following statement: > > > >> It's necessary to consider the sound of the music, > >> *an

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

Hi David, Example of an application (Mac OS X only) that does follow the key signature on mouse-click input: NoteAbility Interesting... Keith Hamel was a teacher of mine at UBC, and so I used NoteWriter back in the late 80s and early 90s. The last

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 08:32, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi Kees, > >> these programs operate as you describe > > Okay, then they *do* use (essentially) the same method as Lilypond, not some > "visually-oriented" method which "follows the key signature"... > > So is there *any* example of an applic

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

Hi Francisco, Well, I think technically it's easy, just draw the little balls. You'll have a drawing program that knows little about music. Of course, you're right... I was foolishly assuming this would be a music engraving program that knew something about music. ;) Thanks, Kieren. ___

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

2009/8/31 Kieren MacMillan : > Hi Kees, > >> these programs operate as you describe > > Okay, then they *do* use (essentially) the same method as Lilypond, not some > "visually-oriented" method which "follows the key signature"... > > So is there *any* example of an application which tries to "foll

Re: linking render frames in Scribus

Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: Checking the Embed will not rasterize, but embed the PDF. If the page setting is not applied, then it's a bug in Scribus that should be reported. I decided to try the stable version before contacting the Scribus team, but I found out that the page settin

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

Hi Kees, these programs operate as you describe Okay, then they *do* use (essentially) the same method as Lilypond, not some "visually-oriented" method which "follows the key signature"... So is there *any* example of an application which tries to "follow the key signature" for someone?

Re: linking render frames in Scribus

Checking the Embed will not rasterize, but embed the PDF. If the page setting is not applied, then it's a bug in Scribus that should be reported. Federico Bruni wrote: Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: Are you using the "Embed PDF blabla (EXPERIMENTAL)" setting while exporting to PDF? What

Re: linking render frames in Scribus

Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: Are you using the "Embed PDF blabla (EXPERIMENTAL)" setting while exporting to PDF? What if using the not experimental? no, by default it's disabled and if I select that box and export to PDF again, nothing changes I have to say that the preflight verifie

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

>From: Kieren MacMillan Hi David R, > > > AFAIK, all of the graphical-interface music scoring programs > > use the visually-oriented logic. > > The last time I used Finale — which, thankfully, was a very long > time  > ago! ;) — there were only two ways of entering notes: > > 1. From a MIDI k

Re: chord durations

On Aug 30, 2009, at 10:23 PM, Christian Henning wrote: Hi there, adding a dot to a chord duration prolongs it by 50%. "g4.", for instance, is 1.5 beats or three 8th notes. "g4.." is 1.75 beats, I believe. Which would translate into seven 16th notes. But what is "g4..."? Here, with 3 dots. Two

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

Hi David R, AFAIK, all of the graphical-interface music scoring programs use the visually-oriented logic. The last time I used Finale — which, thankfully, was a very long time ago! ;) — there were only two ways of entering notes: 1. From a MIDI keyboard: Clearly, you can't "follow the key

Re: linking render frames in Scribus

Are you using the "Embed PDF blabla (EXPERIMENTAL)" setting while exporting to PDF? What if using the not experimental? Federico Bruni wrote: Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: If you want multiple page PDFs in Scribus, you can do so. You only need as many image frames as the number of pages

Re: linking render frames in Scribus

Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: If you want multiple page PDFs in Scribus, you can do so. You only need as many image frames as the number of pages in the PDF, then put the same PDF into the image frames, and set the "Page" attribute of the image. With "Render frames" you lose syntax high

Re: Lilypond Speed

As I have just had a rather powerful evaluation server to play around with for a few days while I tested our various Windows and Linux server builds on it, I thought I'd also take the opportunity to compare the build speed of a reasonably substantial score. I used Reinhold's setting of Reubke's son

Re: One big parenthesis around a note _and_ its accidental

Am Montag, 31. August 2009 schrieb Jethro Van Thuyne: > Hi Frank, > > This does the trick in a bit unorthodox way: > > \relative c'' { > \override TextScript #'extra-offset = #'(-2.2 . 1.9) > a b c d | > 1_\markup { \small "( )" } > } > > But there will probably be a better way

Re: One big parenthesis around a note _and_ its accidental

On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:06:20 +0200, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > The fis in this chord is in parenthesis (basically) like this: > > - >O > ---/-\--- >| # O | > ---\-/--- Hi Frank, This does the trick in a bit unorthodox way: \relative c'' { \override TextScri

Re: making a book with LilyPond

Hi Jan, thanks for your reply. Actually, I had tried \bookpart (see the 1st example below, in my first email) but I have problems with \include. If in the included files there's an \include (even a simple include "english.ly"), it can't compile. I attach a tiny example, where book-test.ly

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

2009/8/31 Reinhold Kainhofer : > However, the absolute pitch names a, b, etc. are really absolute pitch names > and their meaning should never, ever depend on the key signature. Just ask > anyone music teacher of any level you know... I think it does worth mentioning the Spanish tradition of not s

Re: Accidentals: Unwanted naturals

Am Montag, 31. August 2009 06:14:21 schrieb David Raleigh Arnold: > On Saturday 29 August 2009, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > > David, > > > > > The key signature is and has been for many centuries > > > an integral part of the notation. > > > > Yes... and now you're suggesting we make it *not* integra

One big parenthesis around a note _and_ its accidental

Hi again I was setting another piece yesterday and this had, as final note, 1 The fis in this chord is in parenthesis (basically) like this: - O ---/-\--- | # O | ---\-/--- However, lilypond gives me this: - O - # (O)

chord durations

-- Forwarded message -- From: David Rogers Date: Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 00:34 Subject: Re: chord durations To: Christian Henning Even more important - just try stuff from the manual and see for yourself how it works. Unlike a lot of software, Lilypond's learning manual is EXTREME

Re: chord durations

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 20:23, Christian Henning wrote: > Also, how can I describe a duration that lasts for 2.25 beats? The easy way is to make a half note tied to a sixteenth note - like this: c2~c16 But the real question is, why do you want a 2.25 beat duration? If you explain what you r

Re: staff groups.....deletable?

Please use the Lilypond-User List for these questions. Limao Luo wrote Sunday, August 30, 2009 11:51 PM I have a piece in which I have combined the violin 1 and violin 2 parts because the notes in the first thirty or so measures are the same; however, when I try to use the \new StaffGroup co