Second Wind for Big Iron

2004-03-22 Thread Ron Greve
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Second Wind for Big Iron

2004-03-23 Thread Bruce Hayden
-- From: "Fargusson.Alan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Second Wind for Big Iron To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is Apr 7, 1964 actually when the 360 was introduced? That is the same = month that Ford started sel

Re: Second Wind for Big Iron

2004-03-23 Thread Fargusson.Alan
Is Apr 7, 1964 actually when the 360 was introduced? That is the same month that Ford started selling the Mustang. -Original Message- From: Ron Greve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 10:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Second Wind for Big Iron http

Re: Second Wind for Big Iron

2004-03-23 Thread Tom Duerbusch
"To realize this utility vision, though, today's servers have to become as reliable and secure as the first mainframes." Someone must have been on LSD back in the '60s. Reliable? Secure? I'll take the present day mainframes any day over the stuff I use to work on. And suffer with . Tom Duerbu

Re: Second Wind for Big Iron

2004-03-23 Thread Phil Payne
>http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_13/b3876068.htm Absolute twaddle. System/360 was the world's first open system. Principles of Operation and the Channel OEMI manuals permitted plug compatibility - OS/360 was public domain and the source code was freely available from IBM fo

Re: Second Wind for Big Iron

2004-03-23 Thread Alan Cox
On Maw, 2004-03-23 at 09:02, Phil Payne wrote: > >http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_13/b3876068.htm > > Absolute twaddle. > > System/360 was the world's first open system. Umm disputable. First major commercial open-ish system perhaps. But a thumb through the fun about cables and

Re: Second Wind for Big Iron

2004-03-23 Thread Lee Courtney
.org/ibms360_04072004/. Lee Courtney > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Alan Cox > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 4:33 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Second Wind for Big Iron > > > On Maw, 2004-03-23 at 09:02,

Re: Second Wind for Big Iron

2004-03-24 Thread Wesley Parish
> From: Ron Greve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 10:32 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Second Wind for Big Iron > > >http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_13/b3876068.htm > >

Re: Second Wind for Big Iron

2004-03-24 Thread Joseph Temple
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Re: Second Wind for Big Iron

2004-03-24 Thread Phil Payne
> > System/360 was the world's first open system. > > Umm disputable. First major commercial open-ish system perhaps. But a > thumb through the fun about cables and third party hardware and the > little legal arguments seem to me to suggest it wasnt a grand "open > system" launch from day one ? As