Re: FAIBASE/10-misc and hostname

2013-03-13 Diskussionsfäden George VerDuin
On 03/13/2013 03:39 AM, Thomas Lange wrote: On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 03:55:53 +0100, Holger Parplies said: >> little challenged by the quote "...nobody cares about Ubuntu...". > I believe that is a translation error from the German "sich kuemmern um". It's > probably supposed to mean

Re: FAIBASE/10-misc and hostname

2013-03-13 Diskussionsfäden George VerDuin
Thanks Thomas. On 03/13/2013 09:36 AM, Thomas Lange wrote: On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:41:16 -0400, George VerDuin said: > * Is is safe to re-run fai-setup without re-installing from scratch? Under what circumstances is it required to run > fai-setup again? How do I reconcile a

Re: FAIBASE/10-misc and hostname

2013-03-13 Diskussionsfäden Thomas Lange
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:41:16 -0400, George VerDuin > said: > * Is is safe to re-run fai-setup without re-installing from scratch? Under what circumstances is it required to run > fai-setup again? How do I reconcile a statements in existing documentation "Run fai-setup

Re: FAIBASE/10-misc and hostname

2013-03-13 Diskussionsfäden Thomas Lange
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 03:55:53 +0100, Holger Parplies > said: >> little challenged by the quote "...nobody cares about Ubuntu...". > I believe that is a translation error from the German "sich kuemmern um". It's > probably supposed to mean "the Ubuntu package is unmaintained

Re: FAIBASE/10-misc and hostname

2013-03-12 Diskussionsfäden Holger Parplies
Hi, George VerDuin wrote on 2013-03-12 14:41:16 -0400 [Re: FAIBASE/10-misc and hostname]: > [...] > It's my experience > that the Ubuntu 3.4.8ubuntu2 version is also not plug-n-play and I'm a > little challenged by the quote "...nobody cares about Ubuntu...".

Re: FAIBASE/10-misc and hostname

2013-03-12 Diskussionsfäden George VerDuin
I find this entire thread to be huge gentlemen. It has everything to do with my nubie status with FAI plus end user community. On 03/12/2013 06:36 AM, Thomas Lange wrote: On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:26:45 +0100, Dirk Geschke said: > And of course: A collection of known problems and work-aro

Re: FAIBASE/10-misc and hostname

2013-03-12 Diskussionsfäden Thomas Lange
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:34:37 +0100, Dirk Geschke > said: > But shouldn't we first agree on where to put all the tips, tricks > and hints? Or do you think, this would be the right place? Tips, tricks and hints belong into the wiki. A common problem like the aufs problem belongs

Re: FAIBASE/10-misc and hostname

2013-03-12 Diskussionsfäden Thomas Lange
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:26:45 +0100, Dirk Geschke > said: > And of course: A collection of known problems and work-arounds would > be nice. Maybe there is alredy one and I did not find it. But some > issues like then NFSv4 problems should be easier to find. Especially >

Re: FAIBASE/10-misc and hostname

2013-03-12 Diskussionsfäden Dirk Geschke
Hi Thomas, > > I just found some solutions here: > > > http://wiki.fai-project.org/wiki/Helper_scripts > Feel free to use the wiki for all kinds of documentation, hints, > tricks,. oh, it is open for everyone? I never tried this and was not aware of this... But shouldn't we first agr

Re: FAIBASE/10-misc and hostname

2013-03-12 Diskussionsfäden Dirk Geschke
Hi Thomas, > FAI major goal was always to be as flexible as possible but also like > to give some structure (the tasks and classes) to the user. I think that is the cause for many initial problems and on the other side it is one of the best features FAI can have. I can do nearly everything with F

Re: FAIBASE/10-misc and hostname

2013-03-12 Diskussionsfäden Thomas Lange
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:14:31 +0100, Dirk Geschke > said: > I just found some solutions here: > http://wiki.fai-project.org/wiki/Helper_scripts Feel free to use the wiki for all kinds of documentation, hints, tricks,. -- regards Thomas

Re: FAIBASE/10-misc and hostname

2013-03-12 Diskussionsfäden Dirk Geschke
Hi Thomas, > > Some of these are FAI tasks, some are not. You can probably argue about > > whether hostname and /etc/network/interfaces are the responsibility of FAI > > or of the config space. > > Then the wise master nodded and asked the initiate: What is an 'installation'? > > Sorry, I just h

Re: FAIBASE/10-misc and hostname

2013-03-12 Diskussionsfäden Thomas Lange
> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 18:15:13 +0100, Holger Parplies > said: > sure there are reasons for what appears to me to be mixing up necessary > installation steps and facultative installation steps in a FAIBASE class. I'd > just like to understand them :). Hi, FAI major goal was

Intermediate documentation (was: FAIBASE/10-misc and hostname)

2013-03-12 Diskussionsfäden Toomas Tamm
On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 11:17 +0100, Dirk Geschke wrote: > Sounds good, there seems to be a big problem with FAI: The first steps > are very cumbersome and I remember the documentation was not very helpful. > Afterwards, when I got it up and running, I found nearly all in the > documentation... >

Re: FAIBASE/10-misc and hostname

2013-03-11 Diskussionsfäden Anders Jackson
mån 2013-03-11 klockan 19:46 +0100 skrev Thomas Neumann: > Hiya > > [I'm not ~the~ Thomas, but I still want to answer.] > > On Monday, March 11, 2013 06:15:13 PM Holger Parplies wrote: > > Some of these are FAI tasks, some are not. You can probably argue about > > whether hostname and /etc/networ

Re: FAIBASE/10-misc and hostname

2013-03-11 Diskussionsfäden Thomas Neumann
Hiya [I'm not ~the~ Thomas, but I still want to answer.] On Monday, March 11, 2013 06:15:13 PM Holger Parplies wrote: > Some of these are FAI tasks, some are not. You can probably argue about > whether hostname and /etc/network/interfaces are the responsibility of FAI > or of the config space. T

Re: FAIBASE/10-misc and hostname

2013-03-11 Diskussionsfäden Holger Parplies
Hi, Thomas Neumann (FAI) wrote on 2013-03-11 10:24:28 +0100 [Re: FAIBASE/10-misc and hostname]: > [...] > [This is just my personal interpretation, nothing official.] > > I guess this and other 'issues' stem from misusing the 'simple' example. > It's rea

Re: FAIBASE/10-misc and hostname

2013-03-11 Diskussionsfäden Andreas B. Mundt
Hi Dirk, On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:17:05AM +0100, Dirk Geschke wrote: [...] > > I guess this and other 'issues' stem from misusing the 'simple' example. > > It's really just that, it's an example. It's not a reference impementation. > > But it is used as such. (I don't blame anybody for this 'm

Re: FAIBASE/10-misc and hostname

2013-03-11 Diskussionsfäden Dirk Geschke
Hi Thomas, > > I stumbled over FAIBASE/10-misc and setting of the hostname. This > > has changed in FAI-4, in earlier versions there was something like: > > > >fcopy /etc/hostname || echo $HOSTNAME > $target/etc/hostname > > > > The first part is strange (who would fcopy the hostname fil

Re: FAIBASE/10-misc and hostname

2013-03-11 Diskussionsfäden Thomas Neumann (FAI)
On Monday 11 March 2013 09:31:08 Dirk Geschke wrote: > I stumbled over FAIBASE/10-misc and setting of the hostname. This > has changed in FAI-4, in earlier versions there was something like: > >fcopy /etc/hostname || echo $HOSTNAME > $target/etc/hostname > > The first part is strange (who

FAIBASE/10-misc and hostname

2013-03-11 Diskussionsfäden Dirk Geschke
Hi all, I stumbled over FAIBASE/10-misc and setting of the hostname. This has changed in FAI-4, in earlier versions there was something like: fcopy /etc/hostname || echo $HOSTNAME > $target/etc/hostname The first part is strange (who would fcopy the hostname file?) but the second half wou