RE: IP over in-ground cable applications.

2002-09-12 Thread Sameer R. Manek
Let's try and limit the name calling to the playground, and stick to the mailing list charter. Unless either of you two has something topical to discuss, this discussion should be taken to private email and not the mailing list. Sameer > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ma

RE: IP over in-ground cable applications.

2002-09-12 Thread sal . sabella
> I've been called a lot of things, but moron isn't one of them. Want to make a bet on it with your boss? Moron. Sal Sabella Get your free encrypted email at https://www.hushmail.com

Re: Overcoming IPv6 Security Threat

2002-09-12 Thread Joe Baptista
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: > http://www.kkc.net/baptista/ > > I strongly suggest you just quietly ignore Mr. Baptista. I can assure you > that this is my last post on the subject no matter how he tries to bait me. > It's the only technique that works with him. Poor D'Arcy -

Re: Vulnerbilities of Interconnection

2002-09-12 Thread Sean Donelan
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, John M. Brown wrote: > I guess the question is. > > At what point does one build redundancy into the network. > > I suspect its a balancing act between reducancy, survival (network) > and costs vs revenues. In 1982 AT&T was still a monopoly, could spend whatever it took and

Re: Vulnerbilities of Interconnection

2002-09-12 Thread John M. Brown
Yet, it is reasonable that people expect x % of their traffic to use IX's. If those IX"s are gone then they will need to find another path, and may need to upgrade alternate paths. I guess the question is. At what point does one build redundancy into the network. I suspect its a balancing ac

block request on dalph@hush.com (was Re: ISPs who de-aggregate intentionally?)

2002-09-12 Thread John M. Brown
this is an abuse of anonymous addresses and an abuse on this list. since the person being mocked didn't even reply to this thread, there is certainly NO need for this twit to reply. List Admin, please drop this person. zero content here. even the spam thread floods have more content than [E

Re: Overcoming IPv6 Security Threat

2002-09-12 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On September 12, 2002 07:31 pm, Tony Hain wrote: > The sad part is that absolutely clueless articles like this one get > wider distribution than they deserve, and it takes even more travel and > face time to refute the nonsense. In most cases it is hard to tell if > the author is really as cluele

RE: Overcoming IPv6 Security Threat

2002-09-12 Thread Joe Baptista
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Jeroen Massar wrote: > Joe Baptista wrote: > > > Thanks to everyone who helped out. > But you didn't actually read now did you? > Oh well you are a reporter nobody can blame you for doing work ;) > But to pull some things straight: > > " IPv6, a suite of protocols for the n

Updated BGP monitoring

2002-09-12 Thread Rob Thomas
Hi, NANOGers. I have updated my BGP monitoring to include ASN analysis. This includes the count of unique ASNs, the count of ASNs that originate at least one prefix, the average path length, the maximum path length, and the bogus ASNs. You will find it all here: http://www.cymru.com/BGP/index

RE: Overcoming IPv6 Security Threat

2002-09-12 Thread Tony Hain
The sad part is that absolutely clueless articles like this one get wider distribution than they deserve, and it takes even more travel and face time to refute the nonsense. In most cases it is hard to tell if the author is really as clueless as the resulting article would lead you to believe, or

RE: IP over in-ground cable applications.

2002-09-12 Thread Christopher J. Wolff
Sal, I've been called a lot of things, but moron isn't one of them. It's been fun playing. Regards, Christopher J. Wolff, CIO Broadband Laboratories, Inc. http://www.bblabs.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 3

RE: IP over in-ground cable applications.

2002-09-12 Thread sal . sabella
> I'm not a big fan of GE period; too many recalls. However you > might want to take a look at Jennair I had a bet with my boss that GE would bring good things to life. Please don't tell me I lost. Sal Sabella Get your free encrypted email at https://www.hushmail.com

RE: IP over in-ground cable applications.

2002-09-12 Thread Christopher J. Wolff
Sal, I'm not a big fan of GE period; too many recalls. However you might want to take a look at Jennair. Here's my favorite. http://www.jennair.com/ja/products/prod_detail.jsp?model=WW30430P&cs=0&B V_UseBVCookie=Yes Regards, Christopher J. Wolff, CIO Broadband Laboratories, Inc. http://www.b

RE: IP over in-ground cable applications.

2002-09-12 Thread sal . sabella
>Thanks for the response. The 'Broadband' in Broadband Laboratories >actually refers to the Microwave That makes sense. I have a question you might be able to answer. I've got some Cerent and Sycamore boxes, and I'm trying to locate a GE Advantium line card. We're fixing to sell Advantium w

Re: IP over in-ground cable applications.

2002-09-12 Thread Vinny Abello
At 02:28 PM 9/12/2002 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >"Christopher J. Wolff" wrote: > > Can anyone recommend a method for integrating TCP/IP with an existing > > analog cable television network. > >Yes Chris, it's called DOCSIS. I would think that a CIO of a company >named "Broadband Labs" wo

RE: IP over in-ground cable applications.

2002-09-12 Thread Christopher J. Wolff
Hi Sal, Thanks for the response. The 'Broadband' in Broadband Laboratories actually refers to the Microwave flavor of last-mile and long-haul data transmission. As a general operating philosophy, we eschew wired last-mile network solutions (DSL, Cable) as inefficient, costly to capitalize, and

Re: IP over in-ground cable applications.

2002-09-12 Thread sal . sabella
"Christopher J. Wolff" wrote: > Can anyone recommend a method for integrating TCP/IP with an existing > analog cable television network. Yes Chris, it's called DOCSIS. I would think that a CIO of a company named "Broadband Labs" would have a lab in which to experiment with cable. > My current

Re: Equinix to join role of chapter 11's?

2002-09-12 Thread sal . sabella
Have you really? >Because you have continued to post off-topic messages to the NA >NOG list, >we have removed your posting privileges for a period of six mon >ths. > >Susan Harris, Ph.D. >Merit Network/Univ. of Mich. > > >On Thu, 12 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >> >> Jane, lea

Re: IP over in-ground cable applications.

2002-09-12 Thread Marshall Eubanks
It is not quite clear to me what you have in mind - do you want to send exclusively IP television over the cable system, or do you want to fit IP into an existing system ? Current cable systems have separate parts of the spectrum reserved for analogue or digital television channels and the inb

Re: IP over in-ground cable applications.

2002-09-12 Thread David G. Andersen
On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 03:04:35PM -0400, Deepak Jain mooed: > > > You would need multicast speakers (routers, etc) along the cable route to > effectively multiple your bandwidth at all. Since cable is already > multicasting (1 stream to many/all) I don't think I see any advantage. > > Unless,

Re: IP over in-ground cable applications.

2002-09-12 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article , Christopher J. Wolff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Can anyone recommend a method for integrating TCP/IP with an existing >analog cable television network. http://www.google.com/search?q=docsis Mike.

RE: IP over in-ground cable applications.

2002-09-12 Thread Deepak Jain
You would need multicast speakers (routers, etc) along the cable route to effectively multiple your bandwidth at all. Since cable is already multicasting (1 stream to many/all) I don't think I see any advantage. Unless, of course, you expect cable customers to be broadcasting to other cable cus

Re: IP over in-ground cable applications.

2002-09-12 Thread Petri Helenius
"Christopher J. Wolff" wrote: > My current thoughts on this are to digitize the satellite video into > mpeg2 and deliver it over TCP/IP through the in-ground cable. This way, > integrating the video and data portion are easy, however the resident > would need to buy a mpeg2 set-top-box to split

Re: IP over in-ground cable applications.

2002-09-12 Thread Majdi S. Abbas
On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 11:24:15AM -0700, Christopher J. Wolff wrote: > The cable companies do this quite well; however, it's not > immediately clear to me how I would multiplex the IP traffic and > the existing video and deliver it to a home. Well, the traditional solutions involve som

RE: IP over in-ground cable applications.

2002-09-12 Thread Christopher J. Wolff
Nathan, If your MPEG2 video were multicast streams, wouldn't that be a much more effective utilization of bandwidth? Regards, Christopher J. Wolff, CIO Broadband Laboratories, Inc. http://www.bblabs.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of

Re: IP over in-ground cable applications.

2002-09-12 Thread Nathan Stratton
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Christopher J. Wolff wrote: > Greetings, > > Can anyone recommend a method for integrating TCP/IP with an existing > analog cable television network. The cable companies do this quite > well; however, it's not immediately clear to me how I would multiplex > the IP traffic

IP over in-ground cable applications.

2002-09-12 Thread Christopher J. Wolff
Greetings, Can anyone recommend a method for integrating TCP/IP with an existing analog cable television network. The cable companies do this quite well; however, it's not immediately clear to me how I would multiplex the IP traffic and the existing video and deliver it to a home. My current

RE: Overcoming IPv6 Security Threat

2002-09-12 Thread Daniel Golding
This is scarcely the first time that a "reporter" has taken quotes from NANOG and spliced them together into a news story. Analysts do it too. I guess one of the weaknesses of this kind of forum is that the kooks (Jim Fleming) come off looking as credible as those who have a clue (like Stephen

Re: Equinix to join role of chapter 11's?

2002-09-12 Thread Richard Irving
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have a bet with my boss that Booz Allen Hamilton will file for chapter 11 before >Equinix. You lose. > Sal Sabella > > Get your free encrypted email at https://www.hushmail.com

Re: Equinix to join role of chapter 11's?

2002-09-12 Thread sal . sabella
Jane, leave the chapter 11 speculation to the analysts. I can understand how chapter 7 is reason for operational concern, but come on. What are you trying to do, set a record for the most off-topic posts over the course of a week? (Of course, Susan likes to play favorites, so it's not like

Equinix to join role of chapter 11's?

2002-09-12 Thread Pawlukiewicz Jane
Hi all, I just got word of this last night. Here's the publication and the story for any who are interested: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2002/08/30/BU117189.DTL&type=business I certainly hope this doesn't happen. Jane

RE: Overcoming IPv6 Security Threat

2002-09-12 Thread Jeroen Massar
Joe Baptista wrote: > Thanks to everyone who helped out. But you didn't actually read now did you? Oh well you are a reporter nobody can blame you for doing work ;) But to pull some things straight: " IPv6, a suite of protocols for the network layer, uses IPv4 gateways to interconnect IPv6 nod

Overcoming IPv6 Security Threat

2002-09-12 Thread Joe Baptista
Thanks to everyone who helped out. cheers joe baptista >http://www.circleid.com/articles/2533.asp > >Overcoming IPv6 Security Threat > >September 12, 2002 | By Joe Baptista > >Technology rags and industry pundits see IPv6 (Internet Protocol version >6) as the future of networking, but Daniel

RE: Console Servers

2002-09-12 Thread Daniel Golding
Cisco 2611's with serial cards are also a popular choice. For one thing, they run SSH, and are quite reliable and inexpensive. - Daniel Golding > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Bender, Andrew > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 8:

Re: [OT: National Moment of Silence] - or lack thereof

2002-09-12 Thread Joshua Smith
"Al Rowland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only drop in 'traffic' I've ever noticed was in my former life in > the military. Retreat policy on base was that traffic pulled [cut] i think i was lucky i never had a car while i was living on base :) regarding the 'silence' yesterday - i was wo

Re: DNS/Routing advice

2002-09-12 Thread Daniel Concepcion
Hi Dan, I could recommend you the use views in bind. This feature in bind you could answer according to the origen of the ask. With a good dns cfg you could resolve a big part of your problems. Regards, Daniel On Wednesday 11 September 2002 17:34, Dan Lockwood wrote: > Everyone, > > I have