Re: Re: ISP Policies

2004-09-09 Thread Rohit Gupta
James, So this provider would select the path with the longer AS_PATH length and would advertise this one to its peers (if any). I believe then its for the others to decide if they want to take this route or not. Is my understanding correct? Thanks, Rohit Mtech Comp Sc. Institute of Technology

Re: ISP Policies

2004-09-09 Thread James
On Fri, Sep 10, 2004 at 11:36:58AM +0530, Rohit Gupta wrote: > On a related note : Do ISPs ever tweak around with Local Prefs and weights so as to > select BGP paths with greater AS PATH length? > > Would it ever make sense for a provider to chose a longer AS PATH length BGP route > against a s

Re: ISP Policies

2004-09-09 Thread Rohit Gupta
On a related note : Do ISPs ever tweak around with Local Prefs and weights so as to select BGP paths with greater AS PATH length? Would it ever make sense for a provider to chose a longer AS PATH length BGP route against a shorter AS PATH length route? Rohit MTech Comp Sc. Institute of Technolog

Restoration after Hurricane Frances

2004-09-09 Thread Sean Donelan
In Florida after Hurricane Frances: 17 fatalities attributed to the Hurricane and its affects. Wireless companies are reporting 95% service restoration statewide. Wireline companies have restored over half of the damaged lines statewide. Bellsouth: 385,000 and Sprint: 177,000 out of service. No

Re: ISP Policies

2004-09-09 Thread Peter Wohlers
Once upon a career, I was involved with shipping cargo via ocean vessel to Kuwait (and other Arab countries). We had to provide signed affadavits from the ships owners that the carrying vessels were neither Israeli owned nor would call any Israeli ports during the voyage. If Arab countries' ISP

Re: Verizon Sr. Manager in the NY/NJ Metro area

2004-09-09 Thread Pete Schroebel
Contact ChoiceNetworks and they can point you in the right direction, been there too ;-) > > Anyone know the name/contact information of a relatively high Sr. > manager at Verizon involved in their high-cap provisioning in the > NY/NJ metro region? I have a dedicated t1 going on its 4th month

Re: OT: The bubble and the economy

2004-09-09 Thread John Kinsella
On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 04:00:33PM -0700, Conrad Watson wrote: > With all the opinions on this list, I'm sure someone will give me a place to > start. Thank you. Google.

Re: Verisign vs. ICANN

2004-09-09 Thread Dan Hollis
On Fri, 10 Sep 2004, Matthew Sullivan wrote: > Dan Hollis wrote: > >On Mon, 16 Aug 2004, Andre Oppermann wrote: > >>PS: I will patent it myself to prevent Versign from doing this. > >Wouldnt it be beautiful if a bunch of people patented the hell out of > >various ways to exploit dns wildcarding,

OT: The bubble and the economy

2004-09-09 Thread Conrad Watson
Hi, I am preparing to write a research paper for my economics class on the effect of the internet bubble and burst on the economy. Also, what part (if any) it played in the most recent recession. If anyone could point me to any sites with data on the economy at the time and after I would reall

Re: Verisign vs. ICANN

2004-09-09 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
> It would only be useful if those people were also in a position to > vigorously defend said patents when (and if) they were infringed. assign the patents to icann, to the eff, to the registrar constituency ...

Re: Verisign vs. ICANN

2004-09-09 Thread Matthew Sullivan
Dan Hollis wrote: On Mon, 16 Aug 2004, Andre Oppermann wrote: PS: I will patent it myself to prevent Versign from doing this. Wouldnt it be beautiful if a bunch of people patented the hell out of various ways to exploit dns wildcarding, thus preventing verisign from doing anything useful

Re: "Intel calls for Internet overhaul"

2004-09-09 Thread Peter H Salus
You want to see the future of meritless products, you've gotta look at the xri and xdi white papers from oasis-open.org. ROTFL. Peter

Re: "Intel calls for Internet overhaul"

2004-09-09 Thread Tom (UnitedLayer)
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, Daniel Golding wrote: > It has become trendy, in some circles, > performance/congestion/non-deterministic nature/lack of security/ issue here>. After firmly denouncing the Internet, the company or > individual then touts their product, which will fix/replace/augment the > Inter

Re: "Intel calls for Internet overhaul"

2004-09-09 Thread Mehmet Akcin
haha, correct Mehmet Akcin - Original Message - From: "Tom (UnitedLayer)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Fergie (Paul Ferguson)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 5:27 PM Subject: Re: "Intel calls for Internet overhaul" On Thu,

Re: "Intel calls for Internet overhaul"

2004-09-09 Thread Tom (UnitedLayer)
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote: > Layer 8. > > - ferg Sounds more like a burrito than the internet...

Re: "Intel calls for Internet overhaul"

2004-09-09 Thread Rachael Treu-Gomes
Indeed. So would this be...IP over IP? And tunnels in tunnels in tunnels... I see some deep recursion fun here. (Now...to keep the underlying carrier networks up. Perhaps we need an Undernet for the Internet to support this Overnet and its valid mode of delivery.) Follow the white rabbi

RE: "Intel calls for Internet overhaul"

2004-09-09 Thread Lucy E. Lynch
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, Brance Amussen :)_S wrote: > > Yeah, great, lots of backbone, but get me fiber to my house, maybe I'll be > excited.. > Nice marketing, but, um, still only as good as its weakest link.. > HDTV over IP bwhaaa haaa hong long did it take to get VOIP to work?? 10 > years? A bit o

RE: "Intel calls for Internet overhaul"

2004-09-09 Thread Brance Amussen :)_S
Yeah, great, lots of backbone, but get me fiber to my house, maybe I'll be excited.. Nice marketing, but, um, still only as good as its weakest link.. HDTV over IP bwhaaa haaa hong long did it take to get VOIP to work?? 10 years? A bit of forshadowing I'd say.. -Original Message- From: [

New IANA IPv6 allocation for RIPE NCC (2001:5000::/20)

2004-09-09 Thread Doug Barton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings, This is to inform you that the IANA has allocated the following eight (8) IPv6 /23 blocks to the RIPE NCC: 2001:5000::/23RIPE NCC 2001:5200::/23RIPE NCC 2001:5400::/23RIPE NCC 2001:5600::/23RIPE NCC 2001:5800::/23

Re: "Intel calls for Internet overhaul"

2004-09-09 Thread Randy Bush
> Which is ironic given that many visible trends (optical cores, mpls, l2 ip > dslams) point to dumber network devices not smarter ones. maybe they're in > the business of selling microprocessors? so we can have a marketing war between those who would save the net using micro network processors

Re: "Intel calls for Internet overhaul"

2004-09-09 Thread Daniel Golding
On 9/9/04 4:21 PM, "Petri Helenius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Paul Vixie wrote: > >> update SAN FRANCISCO--The Internet needs to be upgraded with a new layer >> of abilities that will deal with imminent problems of capacity, security >> and reliability, Intel Chief Technology Officer Pat G

Re: "Intel calls for Internet overhaul"

2004-09-09 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, Paul Vixie wrote: update SAN FRANCISCO--The Internet needs to be upgraded with a new layer of abilities that will deal with imminent problems of capacity, security and reliability, Intel Chief Technology Officer Pat Gelsinger said Thursday. Gelsinger pointed to PlanetLab, an exp

Re: "Intel calls for Internet overhaul"

2004-09-09 Thread Fergie (Paul Ferguson)
Layer 8. - ferg -- Paul Vixie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: update SAN FRANCISCO--The Internet needs to be upgraded with a new layer of abilities that will deal with imminent problems of capacity, security and reliability, Intel Chief Technology Officer Pat Gelsinger said Thursday. Gelsinger po

Re: "Intel calls for Internet overhaul"

2004-09-09 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004, Paul Vixie wrote: Adaptability, capacity, security. Wait, isn't that what ipv6 was supposed to do? -Dan update SAN FRANCISCO--The Internet needs to be upgraded with a new layer of abilities that will deal with imminent problems of capacity, security and reliability, Intel C

Re: "Intel calls for Internet overhaul"

2004-09-09 Thread Petri Helenius
Paul Vixie wrote: update SAN FRANCISCO--The Internet needs to be upgraded with a new layer of abilities that will deal with imminent problems of capacity, security and reliability, Intel Chief Technology Officer Pat Gelsinger said Thursday. There is confusion in the air about the roles of "hosts

Re: "Intel calls for Internet overhaul"

2004-09-09 Thread Randy Bush
> Gelsinger pointed to PlanetLab, an experimental network that sits on top > of the Internet, as a step in the right direction. ROFL! [ and i use planetlab ] randy

"Intel calls for Internet overhaul"

2004-09-09 Thread Paul Vixie
update SAN FRANCISCO--The Internet needs to be upgraded with a new layer of abilities that will deal with imminent problems of capacity, security and reliability, Intel Chief Technology Officer Pat Gelsinger said Thursday. Gelsinger pointed to PlanetLab, an experimental network that sits on top o

Re: ISP Policies

2004-09-09 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 11:04 AM +0530 9/9/04, Tulip Rasputin wrote: Hi Chris, Or, you just don't want to send traffic through Bill Manning's ASN because you dislike his hawiian T-Shirt Policy? There are probably a few hundred reasosn why you'd avoid an ASN... In general though I'd think that like Michel said: "It's a

Re: who's next?

2004-09-09 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 12:12 PM -0700 9/8/04, Fred Baker wrote: At 04:29 PM 09/08/04 +, Paul Vixie wrote: i guess this is progress. the press keeps bleating about stopping spam from being received -- perhaps if they start paying attention to how it gets sent and how many supposedly-legitimate businesses profit

Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts [operational content at end]

2004-09-09 Thread Rich Kulawiec
[ Two replies in one. Last point has operational content. ] On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 01:52:59PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I see that 56trf5.com is a real domain. Does this mean that > the domain name registries and DNS are now being polluted > with piles of garbage entries in the same way

Re: Very peculiar Telnet probing (possibly spoofed?)

2004-09-09 Thread Chris Brenton
On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 01:48, Jeff Kell wrote: > > I suspect but cannot prove > that the packets are being spoofed as we are dropping (not resetting) > the probes, yet they continue. There are repeated probes from the same > IP address for about 15-20 minutes or more, then it moves along, but t

RE: who's next?

2004-09-09 Thread Michel Py
[Disclaimer: I do not intend to aim at Savvis in particular. It just happens that they make the news today. For all practical purposes, s/Savvis/your_favorite_operator] > : > Mr McCormick promised that within the next 10 days all > spammers will

North American, Ricardo "Rick" Gonzalez has invited you to open a Google mail account

2004-09-09 Thread Ricardo \"Rick\" Gonzalez
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