On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
The traffic is too short and bursty to be of any benefit, even when you
can successfully filter it so that no other operations are impacted.
I think that would be the biggest trick in order to even ratios - keep
other services unaffected.
I
i'm sure search engines like google or altavista or microsoft or yahoo
would happily charge you less for suck than your peers/transits would
(like to) change you for blow. with transit-exchange businesses coming
into existence, and with older peering-exchange businesses willing to
support
my guess is that when isp's start paying customers for suck in order to
balance their own ratios or to upset other people's ratios, that it will
stabilize at about 10% of current blow-based transit pricing. and that
there will all of a sudden be a lot more ddos'ing, fly-by-night crawlers,
Ahh, but are you saying that current blow-based transit pricing is stable?
ah. no. current transit pricing is way way lower than a non-bankrupt
provider can afford to do it for on an ROI that the public markets would
find worthy of their praise. eventually, all kinds of flies are going
to
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Paul Vixie wrote:
support transit-exchange, there really ought to be a market for suck.
apparently there is a huge market for suck
(anybody have any guesses how much of the current ddos load is driven by
ratio concerns? that is, now that we know spammers are
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Deepak Jain wrote:
Maybe I am exceptionally naive, but are DDOSes *REALLY* that consistent
between providers to affect month-over-month or quarterly ratios?
I know a webhoster/provider who consistently takes in 1Mpps DOS attacks,
and I'm presuming that the 95th percentile
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 04:38:06PM -0800, Tom (UnitedLayer) wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Deepak Jain wrote:
Maybe I am exceptionally naive, but are DDOSes *REALLY* that consistent
between providers to affect month-over-month or quarterly ratios?
I know a webhoster/provider who
Maybe I am exceptionally naive, but are DDOSes *REALLY* that consistent
between providers to affect month-over-month or quarterly ratios?
yes. because if you're a small provider then you only need a small flow
to balance yourself. and the 95th percentile cuts both ways.
Depending on