Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On 16/09/2014 16:26, Jay Ashworth wrote: What kind of timeframe would a new ccTLD for a major country roll out on? The main issue wouldn't be the timeframe for a rollout of a Scottish ccTLD but rather the disengagement from the .UK ccTLD. The legislative part will take time and there might al

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:02:45AM +0200, Tei wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1_alpha-2#Decoding_table > > GO [...] seems to be free :D 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway... the newest independent state. - Matt

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On 9/17/14 9:10 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: - Original Message - From: "David Conrad" Right. Similarly, .SU has been assigned. SU is a bit odd in the sense that it was moved to “transitionally reserved” when the Soviet Union broke up and a batch of new country codes were created (e.g., RU,

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On Sep 17, 2014, at 9:10 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: >> The .SU ccTLD is also a bit odd in that >> it is the only code that does not (officially) have a nation-state >> (and hence a legal framework) behind it. In practice, I believe it >> falls under the Russian legal framework. > > The European Unio

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

- Original Message - > From: "David Conrad" > Right. Similarly, .SU has been assigned. SU is a bit odd in the sense > that it was moved to “transitionally reserved” when the Soviet Union > broke up and a batch of new country codes were created (e.g., RU, UA, > etc.) and then, in 2007 (or

Re: Scotland ccTLD? - armchair quarterbacking

- Original Message - > From: "manning bill" > Perhaps a dose of factual information may temper this thread. > If we are talking about ISO-3166-2 - the basis for the CCTLD > delegations, then: > > 1_ Scotland has no say in the country code selected. Am I missing something, or is the Finn

Re: Scotland ccTLD? - armchair quarterbacking

On 9/17/14 8:03 AM, manning bill wrote: > Perhaps a dose of factual information may temper this thread. > If we are talking about ISO-3166-2 - the basis for the CCTLD delegations, > then: > > 1_ Scotland has no say in the country code selected. This is not actually true. We have prior art on co

Re: Scotland ccTLD? - armchair quarterbacking

well, apropos to point #2, the iso3166/ma includes representatives from ten agencies, of which a certain 501(c)(3) originally in marina del rey, now in los angeles, is included. however, i can't imagine staff offering an opinion of record on the subject. "ay" for "aye" would work for me. -e On

Re: Scotland ccTLD? - armchair quarterbacking

Perhaps a dose of factual information may temper this thread. If we are talking about ISO-3166-2 - the basis for the CCTLD delegations, then: 1_ Scotland has no say in the country code selected. 2_ ICANN has no say in the country code selected. 3_ The choice is up to an ISO committee. See:

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

David Conrad writes: >> A friend told me that .su domains are quite common in windows >> environments after the admins discovered that .local is not a good >> choice. ;-) > > That would be an *exceptionally* bad idea. I agree. On the other hand: People pay me to fix network problems, including

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On Sep 17, 2014, at 7:17 AM, Jens Link wrote: > Owen DeLong writes: >> On Sep 16, 2014, at 8:55 AM, Majdi S. Abbas wrote: >>> su is not available. >> I think it is now, since the break up of the Soviet Union. No it is not. > A friend told me that .su domains are quite common in windows > e

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

Hi, On Sep 17, 2014, at 5:18 AM, David Cantrell wrote: > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 09:26:24AM -0700, David Conrad wrote: > >> SU is the Soviet Union, now classified as ?exceptionally reserved? which >> IANA treats as available for assignment (other exceptionally reserved codes >> are EU, UK, and

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

Owen DeLong writes: > On Sep 16, 2014, at 8:55 AM, Majdi S. Abbas wrote: >> su is not available. > I think it is now, since the break up of the Soviet Union. A friend told me that .su domains are quite common in windows environments after the admins discovered that .local is not a good ch

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 09:26:24AM -0700, David Conrad wrote: > SU is the Soviet Union, now classified as ?exceptionally reserved? which IANA > treats as available for assignment (other exceptionally reserved codes are > EU, UK, and AC)... Do you not mean *un*available for assignment? They're n

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1_alpha-2#Decoding_table VR, GO, ON, NY, ...these seems to be free :D Clearly New York must declare independence. -- -- ℱin del ℳensaje.

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On 9/16/2014 18:57, Masataka Ohta wrote: > What will happen to ".uk" if England is left alone? > > Masataka Ohta There are still at least 3 countries left in the UK if Scotland splits. The name change is that in that event, Great Britain (.gb country-code

RE: Scotland ccTLD?

>sc is Seychelles. Available s* include sf, sp, sq, su and sw. They should >pick .sf, use .scot for in-country domains and sell all .sf domains to >San Francisco residents. Or Science Fiction productions. Lots more money there.

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 01:01:24PM -0400, Barry Shein wrote: > .PC, for Picts (I believe it's available.) But I doubt that would fly. They could abolish all taxes and fund the entire country just on domain name sales. > I don't know anything about Scotland's attitude toward being > identified wit

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Masataka Ohta < mo...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> wrote: > What will happen to ".uk" if England is left alone? > Will be reserved to a future "United Korea" if that happens... Rubens

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

What will happen to ".uk" if England is left alone? Masataka Ohta

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On Sep 16, 2014, at 8:55 AM, Majdi S. Abbas wrote: > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:45:07PM -0300, Rubens Kuhl wrote: >> sc is Seychelles. Available s* include sf, sp, sq, su and sw. They should >> pick .sf, use .scot for in-country domains and sell all .sf domains to San >> Francisco residents. >

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Tom Hill wrote: > On 16/09/14 18:18, David Conrad wrote: >> Clearly the right answer here is either .SW or perhaps just .WH >> (since a whisky from a place other than Scotland is obviously just >> wrong ... :)) > > Actually heard recently that .sq might be the pref

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On 16/09/14 18:18, David Conrad wrote: > Clearly the right answer here is either .SW or perhaps just .WH > (since a whisky from a place other than Scotland is obviously just > wrong ... :)) Actually heard recently that .sq might be the preferred option. Not sure what the reason for that was. I'd

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

Subject: Re: Scotland ccTLD? Date: Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:09:27AM -0700 Quoting Doug Barton (do...@dougbarton.us): > A better question is why is SU still in the root? Since the rebels in eastern Ukraine have been reported to call their intimidation police "НКВД"[0] I suppose th

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On Sep 16, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Jamie Bowden wrote: >> Clearly the right answer here is either .SW or perhaps just .WH (since a >> whisky from a place other than Scotland is obviously just wrong ... :)) > > I believe the Irish monks who invented the stuff might beg to differ, No, no. They invented

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On 9/16/14 11:06 AM, David Conrad wrote: On Sep 16, 2014, at 10:52 AM, Doug Barton wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1_alpha-2#Decoding_table Minor nit, referring to secondary sources, even ones so well-maintained as wikipedia, has rather often led to confusion in the ccTLD space.

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On Sep 16, 2014, at 10:52 AM, Doug Barton wrote: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1_alpha-2#Decoding_table > > Minor nit, referring to secondary sources, even ones so well-maintained as > wikipedia, has rather often led to confusion in the ccTLD space. The primary > source for this info

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On 9/16/14 10:45 AM, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote: On 9/16/14 8:26 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: What kind of timeframe would a new ccTLD for a major country roll out on? that could be several quite distinct questions: 1. assuming that the "aye" vote prevails, in what quarter will the iso3166/ma iss

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:26 PM, David Conrad wrote: > On Sep 16, 2014, at 8:45 AM, Rubens Kuhl wrote: > > Available s* include sf, sp, sq, su and sw. > > SF (Finland, from “Suomi Finland”) is “transitionally reserved” meaning it > is allocated but will be removed from the allocated list “soon”

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On 9/16/14 10:32 AM, William Herrin wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: I know that IANA bases its list of ccTLDs on the 3166 list. Does anyone know if the 3166 secretariat has a preliminary choice in mind? I see press coverage of ".scot", but of course that's not germ

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On 9/16/14 8:26 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: What kind of timeframe would a new ccTLD for a major country roll out on? that could be several quite distinct questions: 1. assuming that the "aye" vote prevails, in what quarter will the iso3166/ma issue the relevant update, allocating a code point to

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

> On Sep 16, 2014, at 8:45 AM, Rubens Kuhl wrote: > > Available s* include sf, sp, sq, su and sw. One really should to consult and before making these kind of assumptions. jaap

RE: Scotland ccTLD?

> From: David Conrad > Clearly the right answer here is either .SW or perhaps just .WH (since a > whisky from a place other than Scotland is obviously just wrong ... :)) I believe the Irish monks who invented the stuff might beg to differ, but really, we're talking about an oil rich nation being

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > I know that IANA bases its list of ccTLDs on the 3166 list. > > Does anyone know if the 3166 secretariat has a preliminary choice in mind? > I see press coverage of ".scot", but of course that's not germane. Here's a list of assigned and ava

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On 16/09/14 16:26, Jay Ashworth wrote: I see also a suggestion, credited to Dave Eastabrook (sp?) of .ab, which apparently stands for Alba, which I will assume has historical significance (the country name in Scots Gaelic, perhaps?) It has current significance, as Gaelic is recognised as an off

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On Sep 16, 2014, at 10:01 AM, Barry Shein wrote: > .PC, for Picts (I believe it's available.) But I doubt that would fly. Clearly the right answer here is either .SW or perhaps just .WH (since a whisky from a place other than Scotland is obviously just wrong ... :)) Regards, -drc signature.a

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On 9/16/14 9:26 AM, David Conrad wrote: SU is the Soviet Union, now classified as “exceptionally reserved” which IANA treats as available for assignment (other exceptionally reserved codes are EU, UK, and AC). Don’t get me started on why SU is exceptionally reserved instead of transitionally res

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On 9/16/14 9:28 AM, jamie rishaw wrote: Remember, the entire secession movement is being funded by a couple of Lottery winners. Um ... the history of Scots not wanting to be ruled by !Scots goes back a wee bit further. :) Doug

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

.PC, for Picts (I believe it's available.) But I doubt that would fly. They could combine Scotland and Picts to rationalize .SP. I don't know anything about Scotland's attitude toward being identified with the Picts, however. Perhaps that's a nonsensical idea. Oh well. I guess if Scotland devol

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

Sss! :-) On September 16, 2014 12:28:05 PM EDT, jamie rishaw wrote: >Do we get to bill time and materials (t&m) if they vote to secede? I >mean, >we're engineers and all but even this discussion has netted a >nonsignificant number of billable hours. > >Remember, the entire secession movement

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On Sep 16, 2014, at 11:26 PM, David Conrad wrote: > Don’t get me started on why SU is exceptionally reserved instead of > transitionally reserved. Just in case? ;> -- Roland Dobbins //

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

Do we get to bill time and materials (t&m) if they vote to secede? I mean, we're engineers and all but even this discussion has netted a nonsignificant number of billable hours. Remember, the entire secession movement is being funded by a couple of Lottery winners. Just sayin'. -j On Tue, Sep

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On Sep 16, 2014, at 8:45 AM, Rubens Kuhl wrote: > Available s* include sf, sp, sq, su and sw. SF (Finland, from “Suomi Finland”) is “transitionally reserved” meaning it is allocated but will be removed from the allocated list “soon” (for some value of the variable “soon”). I believe the hold do

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

Jay Ashworth writes: > I know that IANA bases its list of ccTLDs on the 3166 list. > > Does anyone know if the 3166 secretariat has a preliminary choice in > mind? It hasn't. > I see press coverage of ".scot", but of course that's not > germane. That is a gTLD at best, not an alpha-2 I

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On Sep 16, 2014, at 11:52 AM, TR Shaw wrote: > > On Sep 16, 2014, at 11:43 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > >> - Original Message - >>> From: "Suresh Ramasubramanian" >> >>> Alba was the ancient roman name for England, meaning white, because if >>> the white cliffs of Dover >>> >>> They cal

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On 16/09/2014 16:43, Jay Ashworth wrote: > Except that, alas, .sc is already assigned, to Seychelles. Or this wouldn't > be a thing. :-) no-one's recently found oil under the Seychelles, so there doesn't seem to be an immediate need to install some new democracy over there and liberate the downt

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:45:07PM -0300, Rubens Kuhl wrote: > sc is Seychelles. Available s* include sf, sp, sq, su and sw. They should > pick .sf, use .scot for in-country domains and sell all .sf domains to San > Francisco residents. su is not available. --msa

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian < ops.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > Alba was the ancient roman name for England, meaning white, because if the > white cliffs of Dover > > They called Scotland Caledonia and Ireland Hibernia > > Scotland is named for an ancient / mythical queen

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

On Sep 16, 2014, at 11:43 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > - Original Message - >> From: "Suresh Ramasubramanian" > >> Alba was the ancient roman name for England, meaning white, because if >> the white cliffs of Dover >> >> They called Scotland Caledonia and Ireland Hibernia > > Ah. > >> S

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

.SC is the ccTLD for Seychelles - mark Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > Alba was the ancient roman name for England, meaning white, because if the > white cliffs of Dover > > They called Scotland Caledonia and Ireland Hibernia > > Scotland is named for an ancient / mythical queen named Scota so

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

- Original Message - > From: "Suresh Ramasubramanian" > Alba was the ancient roman name for England, meaning white, because if > the white cliffs of Dover > > They called Scotland Caledonia and Ireland Hibernia Ah. > Scotland is named for an ancient / mythical queen named Scota so they

Re: Scotland ccTLD?

Alba was the ancient roman name for England, meaning white, because if the white cliffs of Dover They called Scotland Caledonia and Ireland Hibernia Scotland is named for an ancient / mythical queen named Scota so they should be fine with say sc On 16-Sep-2014 8:58 pm, "Jay Ashworth" wrote: > I

Scotland ccTLD?

I know that IANA bases its list of ccTLDs on the 3166 list. Does anyone know if the 3166 secretariat has a preliminary choice in mind? I see press coverage of ".scot", but of course that's not germane. I see also a suggestion, credited to Dave Eastabrook (sp?) of .ab, which apparently stands for