On 8/4/19 3:27 AM, Mark Tinka wrote:
For shorter runs, I think it's cheaper to find dark fibre and do
something yourself.
This was a bit of an unusual situation. One end it rather rural. The
only fiber within miles was one semi-independent operator, the area
RBOC, and Comcast. The semi-ind
A friend of mine whom I rely upon took it upon himself to put my question
to a reliable contact of his. In the hope of adding some value to this
thread, I'm reproducing this exchange with their names removed, in
descending chronological order (latest first, earliest last).
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On 4/Aug/19 02:16, Brandon Martin wrote:
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> Those are definitely longer distances than I was inquiring about. I
> was asking for distances in the range of more like 100km.
For shorter runs, I think it's cheaper to find dark fibre and do
something yourself.
Mark.
On 8/3/19 6:58 AM, Mark Tinka wrote:
We are seeing requests from as low as 600km, up to 1,600km, all the way
to 7,000km.
Those are definitely longer distances than I was inquiring about. I was
asking for distances in the range of more like 100km.
Those distances are firmly into the amplifie
On 3/Aug/19 17:04, Valdis Kl ē tnieks wrote:
> I'm having a hard time seeing any of those distances as being "metro" as
> opposed to long-haul.. or did they change the definitions again while I wasn't
> paying attention?
I was answering Brandon's query re: spectrum over distance.
The OP's ques
On Sat, 03 Aug 2019 12:58:01 +0200, Mark Tinka said:
> On 3/Aug/19 03:14, Brandon Martin wrote:
> > � I've inquired with a few metro operators in my area about something
> > like this, albeit a few years ago, and I got a pretty hard "no way
> > we'd ever do that" out of them presumably for the reas
On 3/Aug/19 03:14, Brandon Martin wrote:
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> How are they handling optical power balancing across amplifiers and
> such? Do they just trust the customer to provide light at the power
> levels agreed upon? Bulk attenuate the entire "spectrum"
> automatically? Monitor and drop the whole lo
On 8/2/19 4:10 PM, Mark Tinka wrote:
Now, the next step in all this that is starting to gain a bit of
traction is "spectrum", i.e., rather than take a normal grey service
from a Transport operator, have them deliver you a portion of the DWDM
spectrum so that you can run as much bandwidth as you w
On 2/Aug/19 20:06, Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote:
> Bear with me one more time as I drill down a little and spell things
> out. I've realized that there may be more than one interpretation of
> "EoDWDM". Are you referring to:
>
> (a) Ethernet packets in OTU frames - thereby implying an underly
Bear with me one more time as I drill down a little and spell things out.
I've realized that there may be more than one interpretation of "EoDWDM".
Are you referring to:
(a) Ethernet packets in OTU frames - thereby implying an underlying OTN?
(b) Ethernet optical SFP+ transceivers with a cable co
Mark, when you write "There is a healthy sharing of the pie between DWDM
and packet to drive these Ethernet Metro's ", can you elaborate a little?
Are you referring specifically to EoDWDM, or do you have something else in
mind?
Etienne
On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 10:10 AM Mark Tinka wrote:
> And jus
On 2/Aug/19 10:17, Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote:
> Mark, when you write "There is a healthy sharing of the pie between
> DWDM and packet to drive these Ethernet Metro's ", can you elaborate a
> little? Are you referring specifically to EoDWDM, or do you have
> something else in mind?
EoDWDM
And just to add that I think that as part of the future, 5G is likely to
play a big part as well, somewhere between the Metro and the Access.
Mark.
On 31/Jul/19 16:48, Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote:
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> "I'm trying to identify trends in adoption of transport technology in
> the metro-area. If legacy is SDH/SONET and its successor in circuit
> transport is OTN, what are network providers implementing and planning
> to implement as transpor
Hello,
I'm new to this mailing list. I hope I've understood the scope correctly!
I've posted this question to ResearchGate but I haven't had any response.
I'm hoping for some guidance from here.
The question is:
"I'm trying to identify trends in adoption of transport technology in the
metro-are
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