WhatsApp's New Policy Has...

2021-01-08 Thread Mark Tinka
... finally been the final push all my friends needed to dump it and move to Signal. Several of the WhatsApp groups I'm on have, as of this morning, been disbanded and re-launched on Signal. Facebook say the new policy applies to business accounts, but heck, the cat's out the bag and gone.

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2021-01-08 Thread Andy Ringsmuth
Same boat here. I don’t even have a FB account but I am in a handful of WhatsApp groups. Most are family related but one is a tight-knit men’s group at church where privacy is important. The “hey men, I’m struggling with and I need support” type group. We’re ditching WhatsApp likely for Signal

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2021-01-08 Thread Ge DUPIN
There is also Telegram, which is quite good 🙂 Ge Dupin > Le 8 janv. 2021 à 17:56, Andy Ringsmuth a écrit : > > Same boat here. I don’t even have a FB account but I am in a handful of > WhatsApp groups. Most are family related but one is a tight-knit men’s group > at church where privacy is im

RE: WhatsApp's New Policy Has...

2021-01-08 Thread Drew Weaver
nder the hood with Telegram. Just some things that I have observed, not trying to start a holy war. -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of Ge DUPIN Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 12:00 PM To: Andy Ringsmuth Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: WhatsApp's New Policy Has... There

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2021-01-08 Thread Saku Ytti
On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 at 19:29, Drew Weaver wrote: > Telegram is a tremendously useful (and free service) for connecting to > Elastalert for all manner of notifications, but we have since moved to Teams > for that just because we can't really be sure what is going on under the hood > with Telegr

RE: WhatsApp's New Policy Has...

2021-01-08 Thread Drew Weaver
ey want to make their own decisions. -Original Message- From: Saku Ytti Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 12:36 PM To: Drew Weaver Cc: Ge DUPIN ; Andy Ringsmuth ; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: WhatsApp's New Policy Has... On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 at 19:29, Drew Weaver wrote:

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2021-01-08 Thread Saku Ytti
On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 at 20:05, Drew Weaver wrote: > Everyone can and should use whatever signals they want to make their own > decisions. Sorry, I'm still confused. What was the signal that you used to change from Telegram to Teams? -- ++ytti

RE: WhatsApp's New Policy Has...

2021-01-08 Thread Drew Weaver
DUPIN ; Andy Ringsmuth ; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: WhatsApp's New Policy Has... On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 at 20:05, Drew Weaver wrote: > Everyone can and should use whatever signals they want to make their own > decisions. Sorry, I'm still confused. What was the signal that yo

Re: WhatsApp's New Policy Has...

2021-01-08 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/8/21 18:56, Andy Ringsmuth wrote: Same boat here. I don’t even have a FB account but I am in a handful of WhatsApp groups. Ditched my Facebook account in 2012, after some glitch posted private messages to one's time line. Never looked back. Mark.

Re: WhatsApp's New Policy Has...

2021-01-08 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/8/21 19:00, Ge DUPIN wrote: There is also Telegram, which is quite good 🙂 My rough formula:     Signal > Telegram > iMessage > WhatsApp Mark.

Re: WhatsApp's New Policy Has...

2021-01-08 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/8/21 19:26, Drew Weaver wrote: This might be anecdotal but there is a ton of debate about whether or not Telegram is encrypted. This is not anecdotal though, on Wednesday night I saw an interview with a security expert on CNBC and he indicated that they knew that the riots in DC were

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2021-01-08 Thread Richard Porter
Has anyone considered or used Keybase? On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 1:14 PM Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 1/8/21 19:26, Drew Weaver wrote: > > > This might be anecdotal but there is a ton of debate about whether or > not Telegram is encrypted. > > > > This is not anecdotal though, on Wednesday night I sa

Re: WhatsApp's New Policy Has...

2021-01-08 Thread Saku Ytti
On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 at 21:18, Richard Porter wrote: > Has anyone considered or used Keybase? Didn't they sell their customers recently. I may be talking out of my posterior. But on a more serious note, which of these are provably correct? One of them used to offer you a local message and outgoi

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2021-01-08 Thread Dave Phelps
Keybase was purchased by Zoom ( https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/07/zoom-buys-keybase-in-first-deal-as-part-of-plan-to-fix-security.html). >From what I've gathered, Zoom is too tight with, owned by, or run by China, so I believe there was a similar mass exodus from Keybase for lack of trust. On Fri, J

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2021-01-08 Thread Mike Bolitho
Zoom bought Keybase. Keybase also has a bit of technical overhead that prevents casual users from adopting. It's why my group chats are migrating to Signal. Having non-tech friends generate key strings and all that... definitely not going to happen. - Mike Bolitho On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 12:17 PM

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2021-01-08 Thread Richard Porter
Thanks Dave, I missed that... *he says as he deletes Keybase* On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 1:36 PM Dave Phelps wrote: > Keybase was purchased by Zoom ( > https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/07/zoom-buys-keybase-in-first-deal-as-part-of-plan-to-fix-security.html). > From what I've gathered, Zoom is too tight

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2021-01-08 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Fri, 08 Jan 2021 14:10:41 -0600, Richard Porter said: > I missed that... *he says as he deletes Keybase* Hopefully not before you told your Keybase contacts where you were going. :) pgpytCcsAjPkH.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: WhatsApp's New Policy Has...

2021-01-09 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Fri, Jan 08, 2021 at 01:31:56PM -0600, Dave Phelps wrote: > Keybase was purchased by Zoom ( > https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/07/zoom-buys-keybase-in-first-deal-as-part-of-plan-to-fix-security.html). > >From what I've gathered, Zoom is too tight with, owned by, or run by China, > so I believe there