on Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 09:27:44AM -0800, Michael Thomas wrote:
> On 12/10/2009 09:06 AM, Joe Abley wrote:
>> I think Mark means "the question of whether a particular address is
>> statically-assigned or dynamically-assigned", but...
>
> Which assumes that that's the question that actually needs t
On 12/10/2009 09:06 AM, Joe Abley wrote:
On 2009-12-10, at 16:42, Michael Thomas wrote:
On 12/10/2009 08:38 AM, Mark Andrews wrote:
The way to do this is to put other data in the ip6.arpa/in-addr.arpa and
stop trying to infer things from the PTR records.
Sigh. What is the "this" to which y
On 2009-12-10, at 16:42, Michael Thomas wrote:
> On 12/10/2009 08:38 AM, Mark Andrews wrote:
>
>> The way to do this is to put other data in the ip6.arpa/in-addr.arpa and
>> stop trying to infer things from the PTR records.
>
> Sigh. What is the "this" to which you refer?
I think Mark means "t
On 12/10/2009 08:38 AM, Mark Andrews wrote:
In message<4b211da6.9000...@mtcc.com>, Michael Thomas writes:
To Crocker's point though: if IETF came up with a way to publish your network's
dynamic space (assuming that's The Problem!), would operators do that? Or is
this another case where the energ
In message <4b211da6.9000...@mtcc.com>, Michael Thomas writes:
> On 12/10/2009 07:54 AM, Steven Champeon wrote:
> > In a nutshell, if you're not clearly indicating mail sources as mail
> > sources, don't expect great deliverability. If you're running a Web
> > hosting shop and don't have rate-limi
on Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 08:11:18AM -0800, Michael Thomas wrote:
> I'd say that Mikael Abrahamsson's sentiment (or at least the way I read
> it) would be a better start: take a step back and ask what the problem is.
Well, as I see it, the problem is a widespread and systemic failure to
prevent mass
On 12/10/2009 07:54 AM, Steven Champeon wrote:
In a nutshell, if you're not clearly indicating mail sources as mail
sources, don't expect great deliverability. If you're running a Web
hosting shop and don't have rate-limited outbound smarthosts, expect all
your clients' mail to be suspected of be
on Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 09:29:15AM -0600, Sam Hayes Merritt, III wrote:
>
>> Creating a standard on what to put in WHOIS/DNS for
>> dynamic/static/infrastructure would make a lot of sense, seems nobody is
>> doing it though.
>
> As previously noted in this thread, msulli...@sorbs did a fairly goo
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