Re: [Nix-dev] NixOS-Wiki alternative. Was: What license does the content of the nixos wiki and the manuals have?

2015-09-26 Thread Rok Garbas
talk to any tech writer... wiki is _NOT_ a documentation. it is the most perverse form of somthing looking like documentation. the only thing that wiki can be good for is to fill the time gap until "real" documentation is produced. i would rather see the discussion why things from wiki are not in

Re: [Nix-dev] NixOS-Wiki alternative. Was: What license does the content of the nixos wiki and the manuals have?

2015-09-26 Thread Matthias Beyer
On 26-09-2015 08:12:30, Vladimír Čunát wrote: > On 09/26/2015 12:07 AM, Matthias Beyer wrote: > > I agree. I wanted to create a new organization for this and publish > > the repository on the organizations account and github page. > > > > Something like github.com/nixos-wiki > > > > or something

Re: [Nix-dev] NixOS-Wiki alternative. Was: What license does the content of the nixos wiki and the manuals have?

2015-09-26 Thread Matthias Beyer
Hi, On 26-09-2015 09:04:57, Eric Sagnes wrote: > > I would be great to have support for i18n, including guidelines and > workflows for foreign languages. (eg: Who with merging privileges can > determine if a contribution in thai is not spam?) > I can try to work out i18n, of course. Guideline

Re: [Nix-dev] NixOS-Wiki alternative. Was: What license does the content of the nixos wiki and the manuals have?

2015-09-25 Thread Vladimír Čunát
On 09/26/2015 12:07 AM, Matthias Beyer wrote: > I agree. I wanted to create a new organization for this and publish > the repository on the organizations account and github page. > > Something like github.com/nixos-wiki > > or something similar. I explicitely want _not_ to include the wiki in > t

Re: [Nix-dev] NixOS-Wiki alternative. Was: What license does the content of the nixos wiki and the manuals have?

2015-09-25 Thread Eric Sagnes
Hi, A few considerations: I would be great to have support for i18n, including guidelines and workflows for foreign languages. (eg: Who with merging privileges can determine if a contribution in thai is not spam?) Git and command line can be a big hurdle for non technical users, so to help the

Re: [Nix-dev] NixOS-Wiki alternative. Was: What license does the content of the nixos wiki and the manuals have?

2015-09-25 Thread Matthias Beyer
On 25-09-2015 20:58:36, Nicolas Pierron wrote: > > Also, I wanted to mention that Github offers an option for modifying > pages without even cloning the repository on your computer. Which > makes this approach less painful for making contributions. > > https://help.github.com/articles/editing-fi

Re: [Nix-dev] NixOS-Wiki alternative. Was: What license does the content of the nixos wiki and the manuals have?

2015-09-25 Thread Nicolas Pierron
I think having a wiki in git can be a big trouble for users who don't know where to find the "edit" / "login" buttons, but I am sure that we can make the proper template in due time to wrap an interface around such system. On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Eelco Dolstra wrote: > […] But I wouldn't

Re: [Nix-dev] NixOS-Wiki alternative. Was: What license does the content of the nixos wiki and the manuals have?

2015-09-25 Thread Arseniy Seroka
+1 for hakyll. -- Sincerely, Arseniy Seroka On 25 September 2015 18:07:38 Vladimír Čunát wrote: > On 09/25/2015 04:58 PM, Jookia wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 04:01:21PM +0200, Matthias Beyer wrote: >>> What do you mean by proprietary tools? Jekyll, Bundler, git - all open >>> source. Th

Re: [Nix-dev] NixOS-Wiki alternative. Was: What license does the content of the nixos wiki and the manuals have?

2015-09-25 Thread Matthias Beyer
On 25-09-2015 17:07:23, Vladimír Čunát wrote: > > The point is you won't have to use github. Just edit files in your local > checkout and commit it. For creating a PR you maybe do need it (though > the CLI interface probably can do that as well), but that's much more of > concern for the main nixp

Re: [Nix-dev] NixOS-Wiki alternative. Was: What license does the content of the nixos wiki and the manuals have?

2015-09-25 Thread Vladimír Čunát
On 09/25/2015 04:58 PM, Jookia wrote: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 04:01:21PM +0200, Matthias Beyer wrote: >> What do you mean by proprietary tools? Jekyll, Bundler, git - all open >> source. The only thing which would be non-open source are the web >> servers who host the generated html files and the

Re: [Nix-dev] NixOS-Wiki alternative. Was: What license does the content of the nixos wiki and the manuals have?

2015-09-25 Thread Jookia
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Re: [Nix-dev] NixOS-Wiki alternative. Was: What license does the content of the nixos wiki and the manuals have?

2015-09-25 Thread Jascha Geerds
There is also Pelican, a static site generator written in python. I don't know how it compares to Jekyll: http://blog.getpelican.com/ https://github.com/getpelican/pelican -- Jascha Geerds j...@ekby.de ___ nix-dev mailing list nix-dev@lists.science

Re: [Nix-dev] NixOS-Wiki alternative. Was: What license does the content of the nixos wiki and the manuals have?

2015-09-25 Thread Eelco Dolstra
Hi, On 25/09/15 16:04, Matthias Beyer wrote: >> This is essentially how the NixOS homepage is built, i.e., a git repository + >> Template Toolkit + a makefile. And of course you can make pull requests on >> GitHub. But I wouldn't call that a wiki, since you can't easily edit it from >> a >> brow

Re: [Nix-dev] NixOS-Wiki alternative. Was: What license does the content of the nixos wiki and the manuals have?

2015-09-25 Thread Vladimír Čunát
On 09/25/2015 04:28 PM, Matthias Beyer wrote: > and 1GB installation, as you mentioned. > > I used Jekyll because I don't know Haskell (I know a bit, but not > enough) and I can see that haskell puts off a lot of people just > because it is different. [...] I believe we can work around those as f

Re: [Nix-dev] NixOS-Wiki alternative. Was: What license does the content of the nixos wiki and the manuals have?

2015-09-25 Thread Matthias Beyer
On 25-09-2015 16:18:31, Vladimír Čunát wrote: > On 09/25/2015 02:24 PM, Matthias Beyer wrote: > > So, an idea came up - why not using static pages for all of this? > > Yeah, sounds good. Actually, you can edit and preview files on github > easily - it's two clicks to get a PR with the changes (at

Re: [Nix-dev] NixOS-Wiki alternative. Was: What license does the content of the nixos wiki and the manuals have?

2015-09-25 Thread Vladimír Čunát
On 09/25/2015 04:18 PM, Vladimír Čunát wrote: > I've got great experience with Hakyll The only downside to Hakyll I can see is that apparently you need ~1 GB of Haskell stuff to build the site :-/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: [Nix-dev] NixOS-Wiki alternative. Was: What license does the content of the nixos wiki and the manuals have?

2015-09-25 Thread Edward Tjörnhammar
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 11:53:24PM +1000, Jookia wrote: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 03:49:08PM +0200, Eelco Dolstra wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 25/09/15 14:24, Matthias Beyer wrote: > > > > > So, an idea came up - why not using static pages for all of this? If you > > > want to do contributions via git

Re: [Nix-dev] NixOS-Wiki alternative. Was: What license does the content of the nixos wiki and the manuals have?

2015-09-25 Thread Vladimír Čunát
On 09/25/2015 02:24 PM, Matthias Beyer wrote: > So, an idea came up - why not using static pages for all of this? Yeah, sounds good. Actually, you can edit and preview files on github easily - it's two clicks to get a PR with the changes (at least markdown is previewed). Personally, I've got grea

Re: [Nix-dev] NixOS-Wiki alternative. Was: What license does the content of the nixos wiki and the manuals have?

2015-09-25 Thread Matthias Beyer
On 25-09-2015 15:49:08, Eelco Dolstra wrote: > Hi, > > On 25/09/15 14:24, Matthias Beyer wrote: > > > So, an idea came up - why not using static pages for all of this? If you > > want to do contributions via git, you can use github. If one want to > > host it, one can use github pages and build i

Re: [Nix-dev] NixOS-Wiki alternative. Was: What license does the content of the nixos wiki and the manuals have?

2015-09-25 Thread Jookia
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 03:49:08PM +0200, Eelco Dolstra wrote: > Hi, > > On 25/09/15 14:24, Matthias Beyer wrote: > > > So, an idea came up - why not using static pages for all of this? If you > > want to do contributions via git, you can use github. If one want to > > host it, one can use github

Re: [Nix-dev] NixOS-Wiki alternative. Was: What license does the content of the nixos wiki and the manuals have?

2015-09-25 Thread Eelco Dolstra
Hi, On 25/09/15 14:24, Matthias Beyer wrote: > So, an idea came up - why not using static pages for all of this? If you > want to do contributions via git, you can use github. If one want to > host it, one can use github pages and build it with travis-ci. These > things are documented and they _w

[Nix-dev] NixOS-Wiki alternative. Was: What license does the content of the nixos wiki and the manuals have?

2015-09-25 Thread Matthias Beyer
On 25-09-2015 12:58:14, Eelco Dolstra wrote: > However, an alternative to relicensing is to combine it with a move to a > different Wiki, which many people have wanted in the past anyway. For > instance, > we could set up a GitHub wiki, and people could copy their own contributions > to > the new