[OpenWrt-Devel] Multiple OpenWrt devices collectively managed?

2015-03-21 Thread Janne Cederberg
Greetings all! Been searching around and found for example OpenWISP but thought I'd ask the list as well: is there some opensource management software for OpenWrt that could control a set of multiple OpenWrt AP's on the same SSID; so basically controlling their channels based on channel use and act

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Multiple OpenWrt devices collectively managed?

2015-03-21 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
On 21 March 2015 at 15:49, Janne Cederberg wrote: > Greetings all! > Been searching around and found for example OpenWISP but thought I'd > ask the list as well: is there some opensource management software for > OpenWrt that could control a set of multiple OpenWrt AP's on the same > SSID; so basi

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Multiple OpenWrt devices collectively managed?

2015-03-22 Thread Saverio Proto
Have a look at this repo: https://github.com/libre-mesh/ruci Small utility for mass backup / restoring of OpenWrt routers configurations. Saverio 2015-03-21 15:49 GMT+01:00 Janne Cederberg : > Greetings all! > Been searching around and found for example OpenWISP but thought I'd > ask the list a

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Multiple OpenWrt devices collectively managed?

2015-03-22 Thread Outback Dingo
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 10:33 AM, valent.turko...@gmail.com < valent.turko...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 21 March 2015 at 15:49, Janne Cederberg > wrote: > > Greetings all! > > Been searching around and found for example OpenWISP but thought I'd > > ask the list as well: is there some opensource mana

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Multiple OpenWrt devices collectively managed?

2015-03-22 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
On 22 March 2015 at 10:01, Outback Dingo wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 10:33 AM, valent.turko...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> On 21 March 2015 at 15:49, Janne Cederberg >> wrote: >> > Greetings all! >> > Been searching around and found for example OpenWISP but thought I'd >> > ask the list as w

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Multiple OpenWrt devices collectively managed?

2015-03-23 Thread David Lang
On Sun, 22 Mar 2015, Outback Dingo wrote: On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 10:33 AM, valent.turko...@gmail.com < valent.turko...@gmail.com> wrote: On 21 March 2015 at 15:49, Janne Cederberg wrote: Greetings all! Been searching around and found for example OpenWISP but thought I'd ask the list as well

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Multiple OpenWrt devices collectively managed?

2015-03-23 Thread Bastian Bittorf
* David Lang [23.03.2015 20:19]: > question is around having something to automatically assign channels > amoung the different APs to minimize interference between the APs and > between the APs and other things in the area. we just use hostapd & athXk & acs-survey/channel=auto...why dont you? by

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Multiple OpenWrt devices collectively managed?

2015-03-23 Thread David Lang
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015, Bastian Bittorf wrote: * David Lang [23.03.2015 20:19]: question is around having something to automatically assign channels amoung the different APs to minimize interference between the APs and between the APs and other things in the area. we just use hostapd & athXk &

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Multiple OpenWrt devices collectively managed?

2015-03-23 Thread Janne Cederberg
Cool, this sparked a conversation :) Yes, the background of the question was not a mesh network but a network where all APs could be connected to the same switch for example and from there to a DHCP server. A controller would control which channels the APs operate on to minimize interference a) fro

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Multiple OpenWrt devices collectively managed?

2015-03-23 Thread Arjen de Korte
Citeren Janne Cederberg : Cool, this sparked a conversation :) Yes, the background of the question was not a mesh network but a network where all APs could be connected to the same switch for example and from there to a DHCP server. A controller would control which channels the APs operate on to

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Multiple OpenWrt devices collectively managed?

2015-03-23 Thread Bastian Bittorf
* Janne Cederberg [23.03.2015 22:13]: > So there's the auto mode in OpenWrt but that only considers the state > of the wifi spectrum at the ifup of the wifi adapter, correct? So if > things drastically change later, the AP would stay on the same channel > and not switch. what we do in our custom

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Multiple OpenWrt devices collectively managed?

2015-03-23 Thread xxiao8
Isn't CAPWAP designed for this? xxiao On 03/23/2015 07:42 PM, openwrt-devel-requ...@lists.openwrt.org wrote: Re: Multiple OpenWrt devices collectively managed? ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/c

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Multiple OpenWrt devices collectively managed?

2015-03-23 Thread David Lang
Is there any open implementation of this? opencapwap shows no updates in their wiki since 2012 and no files at all on their sourceforge page. I admit to being a bit skeptical about such approaches. They sound good in theory, and work fairly well when there aren't that many users, but I've never

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Multiple OpenWrt devices collectively managed?

2015-03-23 Thread Outback Dingo
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:01 PM, David Lang wrote: > Is there any open implementation of this? opencapwap shows no updates in > their wiki since 2012 and no files at all on their sourceforge page. > > I admit to being a bit skeptical about such approaches. They sound good in > theory, and work f

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Multiple OpenWrt devices collectively managed?

2015-03-23 Thread Janne Cederberg
Oh, sorry Bastian I forgot to comment on your suggestion earlier! Question: how does that "constant" restarting affect network QoS/throughput? -Janne 2015-03-23 23:17 GMT+02:00 Bastian Bittorf : > * Janne Cederberg [23.03.2015 22:13]: >> So there's the auto mode in OpenWrt but that only consider

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Multiple OpenWrt devices collectively managed?

2015-03-23 Thread David Lang
If it's done on a per AP basis, and only happens when nobody is connected, it probably doesn't have much effect. This will work when there aren't a lot of users so the various APs go completely idle on a regular basis. If a client tries to connect right after it has gone idle, they will just en

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Multiple OpenWrt devices collectively managed?

2015-03-23 Thread David Lang
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015, Janne Cederberg wrote: I was thinking the same thing David mentioned, namely, that determining channel change criterion is probably not trivial. Are you guys familiar with Cisco Meraki? Thinking about the problem a bit more. First off, I don't believe that this can be com

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Multiple OpenWrt devices collectively managed?

2015-03-24 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
After reading comments from all of you I thought of deploying additional devices just as wifi analyzers, as few of you suggested. I have used kismet before, but only as standalone wifi scanner, but there is also an option to deploy kismet-drones and monitor multiple endpoints from central kismet se

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Multiple OpenWrt devices collectively managed?

2015-03-24 Thread Bastian Bittorf
* Janne Cederberg [24.03.2015 12:56]: > Oh, sorry Bastian I forgot to comment on your suggestion earlier! > Question: how does that "constant" restarting affect network QoS/throughput? the 'wifi up' command is only issued when a) the last client leaves. each 60secs there is a check with for DEV

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Multiple OpenWrt devices collectively managed?

2015-03-24 Thread Bastian Bittorf
* David Lang [24.03.2015 12:56]: > If a client tries to connect right after it has gone idle, they will > just end up connecting to a more remote AP (assuming there is one in > range) you are right, because everything is polluted with access-points, there is always another one in range... bye, b

Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Multiple OpenWrt devices collectively managed?

2015-03-24 Thread David Lang
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: After reading comments from all of you I thought of deploying additional devices just as wifi analyzers, as few of you suggested. I have used kismet before, but only as standalone wifi scanner, but there is also an option to deploy kismet-dro