Re: 9i standby

2001-07-17 Thread Don Granaman
I'm a little late to respond, but... RAC is most certainly a significant upgrade to and renaming of OPS. There is absolutely no doubt about it. At Oracle Open World 2000, all the Oracle OPS people doing presentations found out about the name change only a few weeks before the conference and scr

RE: 9i standby

2001-07-13 Thread Gogala, Mladen
2 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Re: 9i standby > > > > Mark Leith wrote: > > > No it is not the upgrade of OPS as I understand. They even > put OPS down > > themselves saying that it was sparsely used, and far to > complicated to set

Re: 9i standby

2001-07-13 Thread Yosi Greenfield
Mark Leith wrote: > No it is not the upgrade of OPS as I understand. They even put OPS down > themselves saying that it was sparsely used, and far to complicated to set > up. Th king is dead; long live the king! OPS was sparsely used, so they renamed it. I'm reading a book about the Communist s

RE: 9i standby

2001-07-13 Thread Mark Leith
Brian, They didn't actually say what hardware they ran on other than "Compaq". There was a little discussion about this after the actual presentation with other attendees also, but I shouldn't get too worried about de-support of this solution at all. The actual day was an Oracle/Compaq release da

RE: 9i standby

2001-07-13 Thread Mark Leith
No it is not the upgrade of OPS as I understand. They even put OPS down themselves saying that it was sparsely used, and far to complicated to set up. What RAC does, is essentially link every machine together in to a "cluster", then each physical machine can touch the same database concurrently (

Re: 9i standby

2001-07-13 Thread Yosi Greenfield
Mark, isn't RAC just the upgrade for OPS? Then that would make it a 'standby' for the instance, but not a standby for the database, no? Am I misunderstanding something? y Mark Leith wrote: > I attended the Oracle 9i opening yesterday at Oracle HQ in the UK, and one > of the main points they d

Re: 9i standby

2001-07-13 Thread Brian McGraw
Mark - I saw the same presentation @ IOUG. Do you recall if they were running on the Compaq Alphas? A few days ago I recall someone saying that they would be wary of Oracle continuing support for Oracle on the Alpha chip, since Compaq has pretty much written it off. Brian Mark Leith wrote: >

RE: 9i standby

2001-07-13 Thread Gogala, Mladen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 6:56 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Re: 9i standby > > > "Gogala, Mladen" wrote: > > > > Replication happens in discrete chunks and there is a > distinct possibility > >

RE: 9i standby

2001-07-13 Thread Mark Leith
I attended the Oracle 9i opening yesterday at Oracle HQ in the UK, and one of the main points they discussed about 9i, was the use of Real Application Clusters (RAC). Of course you have to be running on Compaq hardware at the moment, but it takes the need for a standby away, as you essentially jus

RE: 9i standby

2001-07-12 Thread Hillman, Alex
Can you tell us please what are specifics in configuring database for such load. Alex Hillman -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 6:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Properly designed and configured replication environments, especially on 8i+, can handle a phe

Re: 9i standby

2001-07-12 Thread Stephane Faroult
"Gogala, Mladen" wrote: > > Replication happens in discrete chunks and there is a distinct possibility > of losing data if replication was used in banks. Banks and other financial > institutions are using OPS with EMC or DiskShark (IBM) based remote > replication Hmmm. Banks are two different w

Re: 9i standby

2001-07-12 Thread Rachel Carmichael
there is a presentation on high availability there that you can sign up for (free registration) and it talks about this. Rachel >From: "JOE TESTA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject:

RE: 9i standby

2001-07-12 Thread John Lewis
Any papers/books you can recommend on getting it 'right'? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Properly designed and configured replication environments, especially on 8i+, can handle a phenomenal transaction level. I've work

Re: 9i standby

2001-07-12 Thread A. Bardeen
Properly designed and configured replication environments, especially on 8i+, can handle a phenomenal transaction level. I've worked with sites that replicate 20GB+ a day and db performance is excellent. On the other hand, I've also worked with sites that were such a mess that replicating 100MB

RE: 9i standby

2001-07-12 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Replication happens in discrete chunks and there is a distinct possibility of losing data if replication was used in banks. Banks and other financial institutions are using OPS with EMC or DiskShark (IBM) based remote replication facilities. I know that Oxford Health Plans uses 4-way parallel serv

RE: 9i standby

2001-07-12 Thread Janardhana Babu
: JOE TESTA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 1:06 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: 9i standby Page 61 of Oracle 9i, Data Guard concept.pdf   says the standby can be in one of 2 states, open for read-only or in managed recovery mode.  i

Re: 9i standby

2001-07-12 Thread Brian McGraw
Most of the high-volume replicated sites that I have heard of over the past few years use Quest's Shareplex. I've had no experience with Clustra. Brian -- -- | Brian McGraw -- Oracle DBA | | Central Alabama Oracle Users Group | |--

Re: 9i standby

2001-07-12 Thread David Turner
Thanks. If anyone else knows of anything out there for really high volume replication over a WAN it would be appreciated. I was under the impression that banks, credit card companies, and telephone companies were replicating there data using Oracle but it doesn't look like it. Anyone know what

RE: 9i standby

2001-07-12 Thread Gogala, Mladen
I don't think so. My understanding was that you may open the standby in read only mode, but I don't think that you can have the database open in the read only mode and apply logs at the same time. Not before oracle 12j, anyway. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:26 PM To:

Re: 9i standby

2001-07-12 Thread JOE TESTA
Page 61 of Oracle 9i, Data Guard concept.pdf   says the standby can be in one of 2 states, open for read-only or in managed recovery mode.  if its open in read only, it can't have logs applied.  I've not gotten around to testing that 9i concept yet.  although it looks like it will be kewl to

9i standby

2001-07-12 Thread David Turner
Anyone know if the standby in 9i can be in readonly mode while the logs are being applied? I've heard about this as being the case and also that this isn't the case. Thanks, Dave Turner -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: David Turner INET: [EMAIL PROTE