About parallel server

2001-05-30 Thread Fernando Papa
Hi everybody! I have some questions about parallel server. Now we have only one instance "stand-alone" (no parallel), but we are thinking to switch to parallel server because we have a couple of sparc 3500 and nobody are using it, and we think it's good for increase our process

RE: About parallel server

2001-05-30 Thread Brian MacLean
Title: RE: About parallel server Several things: You will have to re-license (your honest aren't you) for the faster machines and OPS; Build the new database on raw and export/import.  Maybe "dd" would get your datafiles from cooked ufs to raw but it's to much FUD for

RE: About parallel server

2001-05-30 Thread Brian MacLean
Title: RE: About parallel server Your point 1:  Unless things have changed redo and controlfiles must be raw.  When I took the OPS course several years ago and worked with OPS we needed the redo/controlfiles to be on raw so that one instance could recover when another instance failed

Re: About parallel server

2001-05-30 Thread sheisey
#x27;t scale in your current environment then it won't scale in OPS. You will just end up with more performance issues. You will also need to buy licenses for all these products as well. Good Luck, Scott > > Hi everybody! > > I have some questions about parallel server.

RE: About parallel server

2001-05-31 Thread Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130)
Title: RE: About parallel server Dick,    What are you using for your source for this information? This does not jibe with other things I have read. If your not going to use a shared raw device for the online redo logs, how can one instance to instance recovery for another instance that

RE: About parallel server

2001-05-31 Thread Fernando Papa
rdinate the > >file > >sharing between the servers, again an additional expense. > > > >Dick Goulet > > > >Reply Separator > >Author: "Fernando Papa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Date: 5/30/2001 2:07 P

Re: About parallel server

2001-05-31 Thread Ray Stell
tion? Our compaq sales droid didn't know the answer. Thanks. On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 02:07:10PM -0800, Fernando Papa wrote: > > Hi everybody! > > I have some questions about parallel server. Now we have only one instance > "stand-alone" (no parallel), but we are

RE: About parallel server

2001-05-31 Thread Rachel Carmichael
le recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: About parallel server >Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 06:06:38 -0800 > >Dick, > > What are you using for your source for this information? >This does not jibe with other things I have read. >If your not going to us

RE: About parallel server

2001-05-31 Thread sheisey
CTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: About parallel server > >Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 06:06:38 -0800 > > > >Dick, > > > > What are you using for your source for t

Re: About parallel server

2001-05-31 Thread Riyaj_Shamsudeen
ll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/31/01 11:36 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L                 To:        Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>         cc:                 Subject:        Re: About parallel server I have heard from iouga atten

Re: About parallel server

2001-05-31 Thread sheisey
t; > > > Hi everybody! > > > > I have some questions about parallel server. Now we have only one instance > > "stand-alone" (no parallel), but we are thinking to switch to parallel > > server because we have a couple of sparc 3500 and nobody are using i

RE: About parallel server

2001-05-31 Thread sheisey
rom you OS vendor to > > coordinate the > > >file > > >sharing between the servers, again an additional expense. > > > > > >Dick Goulet > > > > > >Reply Separator > > >Author: "Fernando Pap

Re: About parallel server

2001-05-31 Thread Ray Stell
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 11:17:30AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ray > I think, you are referring to RAC, Real Application Cluster. Which > is same as OPS with cache fusion for all scenarios. Please see my previous > mail thread with the same subject.. -- index oracle-l The ar

Re:RE: About parallel server

2001-05-31 Thread dgoulet
R. Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meddle not in the affairs of troff, for it is subtle and quick to anger. > --> Data files yes, redo and control files can be on cooked > file system. RE: About parallel server Dick,    What are you using for your sou

Re: About parallel server

2001-05-31 Thread Don Granaman
hat OPS on 9i will allow you to use cooked files. > > User group meeting next week, with a presentation on 9i new features. > I'll ask > > Rachel > > > >From: "Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: About parallel server

2001-06-01 Thread Jared Still
On Thursday 31 May 2001 13:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >So whether you are using 7, 8, 8i, 9i you can use > filesystems for OPS (RAC) if the OS supports multiple > concurrent mounts on the same filesystem from multiple > nodes. Scott, Thanks for answering a question I asked Oracle several year

RE: About parallel server

2001-06-01 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Jared, We had tried OPS in a test environment on DG Aviion, we were told to go for RAW file system by Oracle and DG (I believe). HTH Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expres

Re: About parallel server

2001-06-01 Thread Richard Ji
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/01/01 12:44PM >>> On Thursday 31 May 2001 13:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >So whether you are using 7, 8, 8i, 9i you can use > filesystems for OPS (RAC) if the OS supports multiple > concurrent mounts on the same filesystem from multiple > nodes. Scott, Thanks for ans

Re: About parallel server

2001-06-01 Thread Richard Ji
A couple of years ago, no vendor has a distributed file system (one that will let all nodes in a cluster to mount and access the same file system simultaneously). And that's why we had to use raw device. Maybe DG had it? So which vendor has it then and who has it now? Richard Ji >>> [EMAIL PR

Re: About parallel server

2001-06-01 Thread Charlie Mengler
Digital Equipment Corp. (DEC) had functional VAX-Clusters in the early 1980's and did NOT use raw devices. The VAX-Clusters used the same filesystem as stand-alone VAX systems used! So Compaq has it today on their "legacy" VMS systems. Richard Ji wrote: > > A couple of years ago, no vendor has

Re: About parallel server

2001-06-02 Thread Jared Still
It was DG/UX on DG Aviion Systems, with Clariion storage system. We were sharing filesystems between 2 nodes. Don't know about the rest of DG, but EMC purchased their Clariion storage system unit. Jared On Friday 01 June 2001 14:25, Richard Ji wrote: > A couple of years ago, no vendor has

Re[2]: About parallel server

2001-05-30 Thread dgoulet
ware from you OS vendor to coordinate the file sharing between the servers, again an additional expense. Dick Goulet Reply Separator Author: "Fernando Papa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 5/30/2001 2:07 PM Hi everybody! I have some questions a

Re: Re[2]: About parallel server

2001-05-31 Thread Richard Ji
d you may need specific software from you OS vendor to coordinate the file sharing between the servers, again an additional expense. Dick Goulet Reply Separator Author: "Fernando Papa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 5/30/2001 2:07 PM Hi eve

Re: Re[2]: About parallel server

2001-05-31 Thread sheisey
eed specific software from you OS vendor to coordinate > the > file > sharing between the servers, again an additional expense. > > Dick Goulet > > ____Reply Separator____ > Author: "Fernando Papa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: