Thanks for the update, Dan!
Ingo
From: Dan Wilcox [mailto:danomat...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2020 3:14 PM
To: Ingo; Alexandre Torres Porres
Cc: Pd-List
Subject: Re: [PD] Sample loop - start and end point (WAV files)
Howdy all,
I did give up for a while. The
ata
> On Nov 9, 2020, at 1:28 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
>
> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 13:15:15 +0100
> From: "Ingo" mailto:i...@miamiwave.com>>
> To: "'Alexandre Torres Porres'" mailto:por...@gmail.com>>
> Cc: "'
08, 2020 9:13 PM
To: Ingo
Cc: Pd-List
Subject: Re: [PD] Sample loop - start and end point (WAV files)
Ingo, did you have any luck on this throughout the year?
I'm also curious on this. Anyway, I had another thread here and someone
suggested http://loopauditioneer.sourceforge.net/ that s
gt;>>> > (There are options for multiple loops, though that might not work
>>>> with some
>>>> > samplers.)
>>>> >
>>>> > It can't be such a secret since over 30 years that all manufacturers
>>>> > (software
>>
27;t find any information where the
>>> > loops are stored in the file but they definitely are.
>>> >
>>> > Ingo
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > -Original Message-
>>> > > From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@l
ny information where the
>> > loops are stored in the file but they definitely are.
>> >
>> > Ingo
>> >
>> >
>> > > -Original Message-
>> > > From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of
>> Roman
>
>
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Roman
> > > Haefeli
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 8:48 AM
> > > To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
> > > Subject: Re: [PD] Sample loop -
Yeah, one of each. I'm following the file format specifications but I also need
real files to read & compare my own output with.
I've been so deep in this soundfile overhaul that I might as well see if we can
add this.
> On Feb 21, 2020, at 1:58 PM, Ingo wrote:
>
> Dan, do you mean a simple s
loops.
Ingo
From: Dan Wilcox [mailto:danomat...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 1:47 PM
To: Ingo
Cc: José de Abreu; Giulio Moro; k.s.matheus...@notam02.no; Pd-List
Subject: Re: [PD] Sample loop - start and end point (WAV files)
Can someone send me example files with encoding
Ingo
>
> From: José de Abreu [mailto:abreubace...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 3:08 PM
> To: Giulio Moro
> Cc: k.s.matheus...@notam02.no; Ingo; Dan Wilcox; Pd-List
> Subject: Re: [PD] Sample loop - start and end point (WAV files)
>
> hello all, i do
: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 3:08 PM
To: Giulio Moro
Cc: k.s.matheus...@notam02.no; Ingo; Dan Wilcox; Pd-List
Subject: Re: [PD] Sample loop - start and end point (WAV files)
hello all, i don't know if it is relevant, but my simple google search returned
this software too:
hello all, i don't know if it is relevant, but my simple google search
returned this software too:
http://loopauditioneer.sourceforge.net/
LoopAuditioneer is a software for evaluating, creating and manipulating
loops and cues existing in wav file metadata. It's envisionaged to be
useful for sampl
libsndfile also can extract loop points from a variety of formats. The relevant
code for wav is here
https://github.com/erikd/libsndfile/blob/master/src/wav.c#L1140-L1163
Kjetil Matheussen wrote:
On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:56 AM Kjetil Matheussen
wrote:
On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:14 AM Ingo
On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:14 AM Ingo wrote:
>
> Thanks, Dan!
>
>
>
> They must be embedded in the "Marker Chunk" in AIFF and in the "Cue Point
> Chunk" in the WAV format.
>
> This gives me a further idea for searching on.
>
>
Yes, loops are usually defined as "Loop Start" and "Loop End" cues,
b
Great!
> -Original Message-
> From: Kjetil Matheussen [mailto:k.s.matheus...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 11:24 AM
> To: Ingo
> Cc: Dan Wilcox; Pd-List
> Subject: Re: [PD] Sample loop - start and end point (WAV files)
>
> On Wed, Feb 12,
Thanks a lot, Kjetil!
That's the information that I have been looking for!
Ingo
> -Original Message-
> From: Kjetil Matheussen [mailto:k.s.matheus...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 10:56 AM
> To: Ingo
> Cc: Dan Wilcox; Pd-List
> Subject: Re: [
On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:56 AM Kjetil Matheussen
wrote:
>
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:14 AM Ingo wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Dan!
> >
> >
> >
> > They must be embedded in the "Marker Chunk" in AIFF and in the "Cue Point
> > Chunk" in the WAV format.
> >
> > This gives me a further idea for searchi
Great!
On 12.02.2020 09:31, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
On 12.02.20 01:21, Christof Ressi wrote:
To be clear: I agree that Pd probably shouldn't support MP3 or other
compressed audio formats by itself, it should just make it easy to add
such support as plugins.
totally.
i've been talking with d
er] object!
Ingo
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Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:48 AM
To: Pd-List
Subject: Re: [PD] Sample loop - start and end point (WAV files)
I'm laughing myself silly/crying after wading through the details for a
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> >
> > On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 21:22 -0800, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> > > Well, I was really really hoping to see information here
> Haefeli
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 8:48 AM
> To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] Sample loop - start and end point (WAV files)
>
> On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 21:22 -0800, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> > Well, I was really really hoping to see information
On 12.02.20 01:21, Christof Ressi wrote:
> To be clear: I agree that Pd probably shouldn't support MP3 or other
> compressed audio formats by itself, it should just make it easy to add
> such support as plugins.
totally.
i've been talking with dan about this, and we kind of came up with the
start
On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 19:55 -0500, William Huston wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 5:07 PM IOhannes m zmölnig
> wrote:
>
> > so *you* only need to implement whatever backend you want.
> > keep in mind, that Pd doesn't depend on any external library for
> > doing
> > the encoding/decoding, and
On Tue, 2020-02-11 at 21:22 -0800, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> Well, I was really really hoping to see information here on how to
> get loop points from these files ;)
I looked around for specifications of the .wav-format and I wasn't able
to find one that looks canonical. The ones I found d
Well, I was really really hoping to see information here on how to get loop
points from these files ;) let's please go back to this thread's original
discussion (that is to say you can branch to another "MP3 support" thread
if desired), thanks!
Em ter., 11 de fev. de 2020 às 18:03, Christof Ressi
@William
I understand there are licensing issues with
MP3 (esp. writing them)
Licensing is not so much an issue anymore because the Fraunhofer patents
expired in 2017, so OSS MP3 libraries like "lame" are now legal.
Even if it happens in an external which is easy
to find and load.
As Hans alre
lets not start a war here on who decides what for whom…the reluctance for using
mp3, ogg, wmv might just lie in the fact that working with compressed formats
requires decompression first (that this is done “behind the scenes” in other
softwares doesn´t mean its not happening) and adds a computat
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 5:07 PM IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
so *you* only need to implement whatever backend you want.
> keep in mind, that Pd doesn't depend on any external library for doing
> the encoding/decoding, and afaict it should stay that way.
> so you "just" need to implement mp3, ogg, wm
so you "just" need to implement mp3, ogg, wmv, flac,... from scratch.
It would be nice if Pd had an API to add codecs to [soundfiler],
[readsf~] and [writesf~] as plugins. I think you did something like this
for GEM (for video playback), right?
to be honest: while i understand that mp3 is s
On 2/11/20 9:48 PM, William Huston wrote:
> As long as we are talking about soundfiler,
> > It sure would be nice if someone could make soundfiler read
> any audio file type:
>
> WAV MP3 OGG WMV FLAC AU AIFF etc
dan has recently done some refactoring of the soundfile-i/o backend,
which should mak
As long as we are talking about soundfiler,
It sure would be nice if someone could make soundfiler read
any audio file type:
WAV MP3 OGG WMV FLAC AU AIFF etc
--
William Huston: williamahus...@gmail.com
Binghamton NY
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Advoca
This is something I hoped it could be implemented in Pd Vanilla, with
[soundfiler] (which now gives you some more information on the loaded
file). If that's never happening, that is something I also wanted to
implement in my externals, but I need help figuring how to do it.
Em ter., 11 de fev. de
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