[PEN-L:4685] E Asian regional development

1995-04-11 Thread Joseph Medley
I really appreciate Mark's most recent post. I think he continues to raise important issues and provocative questions. One of the aspects of E Asian development that I find most interesting is that it encourages us to see that capitalisms can be distinguished, and at many (geo-political) levels.

[PEN-L:4684] east asian regional development

1995-04-11 Thread mark selden
Thanks to the many respondents who have addressed issues of East Asian development. I'd like to reflect on comments by Carl Dassbach, Martin Hart-Landsberg and Joseph Medley, particularly as they relate to the possibilities of exploring regional approaches to contemporary development that may be

[PEN-L:4683] Re: Trond's Debt/Asset polarization model

1995-04-11 Thread ROSSERJB
To Ellen Dannin: I could be wrong, but I have never seen anybody discussing these matters suggest that the Talmudic view was that profit is usury. Interest is not profit and the Talmudists and even the authors of the Torah were smart enough to know the difference. Do the Talmudists in d

[PEN-L:4682] Re: emailing list

1995-04-11 Thread Michael Perelman
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[PEN-L:4681] Re: Trond's Debt/Asset polarization model

1995-04-11 Thread Jim Devine
Yeah, those are other reasons why interest might be outlawed.* But it doesn't contradict what I said. Consumer loans go to pay for consumption (obviously), which doesn't lead to the production of a surplus-product which helps pay the interest charges. Though obviously, there are complications suc

[PEN-L:4680] Re: Trond's Debt/Asset polarization model

1995-04-11 Thread Ellen Dannin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Tue, 11 Apr 1995 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > With respect to the views of traditional > religions toward interest, let me note that: > 1) Judaism only forbade it within the community; > it was OK to collect from gentiles. * * * > 5) All of the above accepted profit based on risk- > sha

[PEN-L:4679] Re: Trond's Debt/Asset polarization model

1995-04-11 Thread ROSSERJB
With respect to the views of traditional religions toward interest, let me note that: 1) Judaism only forbade it within the community; it was OK to collect from gentiles. 2) the Roman Catholic Church absolutely forbade interest as "usury" in the 400's but relaxed its opposition partially

[PEN-L:4678] Re: Trond's Debt/Asset polarization model

1995-04-11 Thread Jim Devine
Somewhere in one of his obscure and usually unread books, the ancient Bearded One with carbuncles wrote about the Roman Catholic Church's opposition to the payment of interest. That might be relevant to the issue of pre-capitalist opposition to indebtedness. If a society is producing close-to-zer

[PEN-L:4677] emailing list

1995-04-11 Thread Meei-shia Chen 5-3385
Dear Sir/Madam, I am a faculty member of the University of Chicago with research interests in the political economy of health and medicine. Will you include me in your email discussion group on East Asian economy? Thanks Meei-shia Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[PEN-L:4676] Re: Trond's Debt/Asset polarization model

1995-04-11 Thread JOHN CROSS
And then there is always the 10 billion year "star formation" cycle that shouldn't be forgotten. Regarding the "Jubilee" idea--yes, of course in many "pre modern" societies deabt and wealth inequalities were viewed as negative things that threatened the stability of society. In t

[PEN-L:4675] Re: Trond's Debt/Asset polarization model

1995-04-11 Thread Patrick Bond
Oh, also, on the debt forgiveness/default issue, I've just returned from a two day Friends of the Earth seminar on the IMF, which included a long discussion of how NGOs could engage in high-level debates over managing the debt crisis in this mutual fund era. There were some interesting papers (b

[PEN-L:4674] Re: Trond's Debt/Asset polarization model

1995-04-11 Thread Patrick Bond
Trond, your recent post that the debt cycle `caused' stagnation from the late 1970s appeared to me as a cart before the horse. The argument I've been more closely drawn to is that the emerging problem of overaccumulated capital in the advanced industrial countries found a temporary means of displa