Re: [PEN-L] The economics of incarceration

2005-03-01 Thread Peter Hollings
I almost said that, but for the moral hazard. Peter Hollings -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Doss Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 12:06 PM To: PEN-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU Subject: Re: [PEN-L] The economics of incarceration --- Peter Hollings

Re: [PEN-L] The economics of incarceration

2005-03-01 Thread Devine, James
> > Hell, you could probably keep a lot of petty criminals > off the street by just PAYING him or her $46,000/year. Hey, it's that what Congress, the armed forces, business schools, etc. are for? Jim Devine

Re: [PEN-L] The economics of incarceration

2005-03-01 Thread Chris Doss
--- Peter Hollings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Interesting. Subjectively, I would agree with the conclusion that we are incarcerating too many. For example, if the costs of incarceration are $46,000/year, we ought to be able to rehabilitate many criminals for less than that. --- Hell, you could pr

Re: [PEN-L] The economics of incarceration

2005-03-01 Thread Michael Perelman
The author admits that he is making no effort to take account of anything other than the direct economic cost of crime. Even on that narrow basis, he finds that the excessive incarceration makes no sense. You might also note the publication source -- the Milken Institute Review -- although his

Re: [PEN-L] The economics of incarceration

2005-03-01 Thread Carrol Cox
"Devine, James" wrote: > > Doesn't the calculation of the "optimal level or rate of incarceration" > depend on one's "social welfare function," i.e., how one weights costs > and benefits, so a pro-working-class number would be different from > (lower than) a bourgeois one? A pro-working class numb

Re: [PEN-L] The economics of incarceration

2005-03-01 Thread Devine, James
l: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://myweb.lmu.edu/jdevine/ > -Original Message- > From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter > Hollings > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 7:58 AM > To: PEN-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU > Subject: Re: [PEN-L] The economics of incarceration >

Re: [PEN-L] The economics of incarceration

2005-03-01 Thread Peter Hollings
considering the costs of crime as well as other solutions such as rehabilitation? Peter Hollings -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of michael perelman Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 8:42 PM To: PEN-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU Subject: [PEN-L] The economics of

[PEN-L] The economics of incarceration

2005-02-28 Thread michael perelman
Donohue, John J. 2005. "Fighting Crime: An Economist's View." The Milken Institute Review, 7: 1 (First Quarter): pp. 46-58. 48: "Between 1933 and 1973, incarceration in the United States varied within a narrow band of roughly 100 to 120 prisoners per 100,000 population. Since then, this rate has b