Re: [Pharo-users] Glorp

2016-10-02 Thread stepharo
Ah tx for the explanation. I'm sure that I like bundles for the sake of them. should not we removed DBXGlorp if it is not up to date? Is BDXGlorp based on latest Glorp port? GlorpDBX is nothing but a name to a Metacello config that used to load both Glorp and the OpenDBX (now garageDB)

Re: [Pharo-users] bytes to utf8 string / byte stream parsing

2016-10-02 Thread stepharo
Hello Fabrice Did you read the excellent book chapter written by sven on stream encodings? Check Enterprise Pharo book http://books.pharo.org Now can you tell us what you want to do? It would be nice also to check if Xtreams offers (or deserves some extensions). Stef Le 30/9/16 à 12:57,

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to Microsoft COM for Smalltalkers

2016-10-02 Thread stepharo
+1 We want to support Windows! But ... 64 bits, FFI++, ARM ... well you know. Gimme 10 Millions or just one million and the situation will be really different. Stef By the way I am all for COM for Pharo, the issue is that 2/3 of our community are MacOS and Linux users , I dont even remember

Re: [Pharo-users] Get implementors list window from Spotter

2016-10-02 Thread stepharo
Me too ;) I thought that I was the only one not being able to use Spotter :) I meant to add, in practice what I find happened is that I use Spotter to do initial search for implementors, then I randomly select onne of the so that I can do ctrl-M to get to the ImplementorsOf dialog. It would

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to Microsoft COM for Smalltalkers

2016-10-02 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 2:52 AM, CodeDmitry wrote: > @kilon.alios > > [1] > I like C++/CLI more than C# because it is very refreshing to use a > language capable of using managed memory and unmanaged memory. > > I am too used to being in languages where garbage collection is

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to Microsoft COM for Smalltalkers

2016-10-02 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Ok. Fine points. Want to contribute? Easy: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/ Even more easy: join the association @ http://association.pharo.org/ Being using it for serious stuff and make money out of it? Join the consortium : http://consortium.pharo.org/ Discover some little interesting gem or way

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to Microsoft COM for Smalltalkers

2016-10-02 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
you dont need to have a lot of experience to contribute, even with zero experience as a coder if you understand the basics you can at least contribute class comments. Contribution wise Pharo is quite flexible and if one is lost in the process people are more than happy to help him/her out. When I

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to Microsoft COM for Smalltalkers

2016-10-02 Thread CodeDmitry
Contribution is something I've been thinking about for quite some time because it's interesting how a lot of software is declared "open" but make it not obvious what you can do to help, or at least participate, or just take a glimpse at the code to see if something stands out. I am a believer

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to Microsoft COM for Smalltalkers

2016-10-02 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
I don't speak for the pharo community but even when I was new to smalltalk back 4 years ago if I have read a comment like "Smalltalk is dead, why are we studying this useless language" I would keep my distance from that person. Because a) calling something "dead" in software is stupid b) calling

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to Microsoft COM for Smalltalkers

2016-10-02 Thread p...@highoctane.be
On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 8:52 PM, CodeDmitry wrote: > @kilon.alios > > [1] > I like C++/CLI more than C# because it is very refreshing to use a > language capable of using managed memory and unmanaged memory. > > I am too used to being in languages where garbage collection

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to Microsoft COM for Smalltalkers

2016-10-02 Thread CodeDmitry
@kilon.alios [1] I like C++/CLI more than C# because it is very refreshing to use a language capable of using managed memory and unmanaged memory. I am too used to being in languages where garbage collection is forced on you and everything must be done via new or stack types such as Java, most

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to Microsoft COM for Smalltalkers

2016-10-02 Thread p...@highoctane.be
I would for sure second that. I am using COM for dealing with this thing: http://www.sparxsystems.com/ about all day long a couple days a week. Bridging this with Roassal/Moose for additional visualisations would be super (I am going to look at that one in the coming weeks to help with the

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to Microsoft COM for Smalltalkers

2016-10-02 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Well first of all what you linked supports my claim that 2/3 of Pharo users are MacOS and Linux users which I based on another survey which pretty much verifies what you linked. Second the vast majorities of libraries out other for any programming language are cross platform so I am willing to

Re: [Pharo-users] Glorp

2016-10-02 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2016-10-02 2:37 GMT-03:00 stepharo : > should not we removed DBXGlorp if it is not up to date? > > Is BDXGlorp based on latest Glorp port? GlorpDBX is nothing but a name to a Metacello config that used to load both Glorp and the OpenDBX (now garageDB) drivers. Esteban A.

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to Microsoft COM for Smalltalkers

2016-10-02 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2016-10-02 10:57 GMT-03:00 Dimitris Chloupis : > By the way I am all for COM for Pharo, the issue is that 2/3 of our > community are MacOS and Linux users , I dont even remember the last time we > had a Windows only topic in the mailing list. Modern languages generally >

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to Microsoft COM for Smalltalkers

2016-10-02 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
By the way I am all for COM for Pharo, the issue is that 2/3 of our community are MacOS and Linux users , I dont even remember the last time we had a Windows only topic in the mailing list. Modern languages generally avoid using OS specific libraries, the last exceptions be C# and Swift and C#

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to Microsoft COM for Smalltalkers

2016-10-02 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Well that is not fair because C++ CLI is basically C++ .NET which is another language altogether baring some resemblance to C++. And you dont need C++ CLI to sit on barrier of runtime and compile , C++ can do this just fine. I found this recently trying to experiment at whether its possible to

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to Microsoft COM for Smalltalkers

2016-10-02 Thread CodeDmitry
To be fair, C++CLI is quite a pleasure to code, it's a very refreshing technology that sits nicely on the barrier of runtime and compiletime, similar to Objective C; eg still has access to unmanaged resources, while still having managed resources in contrast to Java/C# which kinda go one step

Re: [Pharo-users] About Seaside3.2

2016-10-02 Thread stepharo
Hi denis I took again the latest 50 seaside32 and there is ZnZincServerAdaptor loaded. server := ZnZincServerAdaptor startOn: 8080 server := ZnZincServerAdaptor startOn: 8080

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to Microsoft COM for Smalltalkers

2016-10-02 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 2 Oct 2016, at 07:09, stepharo wrote: > > ;) > > > btw are working on a com lib for pharo because we were discussing it with > esteban yes, Pablo already has a prototype working :) Esteban > > > > Le 2/10/16 à 04:09, CodeDmitry a écrit : >> Just made this image,

Re: [Pharo-users] Intro to Microsoft COM for Smalltalkers

2016-10-02 Thread John Pfersich
Hey, all you have to do is reboot your computer (often). Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 1, 2016, at 22:53, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > Ah the ugliness of Windoom programming has not changed since the last time I > tried to learn MFC 20 years ago.it melts my eyes. > >