Quoting Ben Finney (2018-03-07 02:51:55)
> On 07-Mar-2018, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > Quoting Ben Finney (2018-03-07 01:04:19)
> > > $ cat ./source/foo.js
> > > "use strict";
> > > import 'backbone';
> > >
> > > So
gt; =
>
> So the Debian package dependencies are all satisfied, but these are
> not sufficient for Webpack to resolve the Backbone dependencies.
Backbone by design avoids dependency on jQuery. Applications may use
jQuery via Backbone, or may choose to instead use Zepto or Lodash, and
t
e-jquery’, yet
> when Backbone is imported it needs jQuery. So this is a bug in the
> Debian ‘node-backbone’ package?
I suspect that would be an upstream bug - http://backbonejs.org/ says:
> Backbone's only hard dependency is Underscore.js
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hed to do so), the package could be released as
separate uglifyjs3 source+binary package.
I might also choose to go down that route if too long time passes
without anyone (myself included) finds time to do the needed testing of
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Quoting Pirate Praveen (2017-08-23 20:11:28)
> On ബുധന് 23 ആഗസ്റ്റ് 2017 11:33 വൈകു, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > Package: node-lodash-packages
> > Severity: serious
> > Justification: Policy 2.1
>
> I do not think the root issue is serious, but only important.
Lack of
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contents of that code is gener
; > ‘/usr/share/musclebook/index.html’ in the currently-running browser.
> >
> > How would a Debian package do that nicely with our conventions?
> >
>
> xdg-open ?
Not sure, but I think sensible-browser is better: As I understand it XDG
covers only graphical desktop
non-zero exit status 1
>
> The tests have been flaky in the past, but now they seem to be failing
> consistently.
Perhaps solved in a newer upstream release: Upstream is at version
10.7.2.
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) DeprecationWarning:
> process.EventEmitter is deprecated. Use require('events') instead.
This bug seems fixed upstream in their 0.0.6 release:
https://github.com/3rd-Eden/FlashPolicyFileServer/issues/9
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node-policyfile lists as homepage https://github.com/ - that is clearly
wrong.
May correct URL is https://github.com/3rd-Eden/FlashPolicyFileServer
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node-node-redis has seen no upstream activity fo 4 years.
According to https://github.com/tim-smart/node-redis/issues/4 another
similar project node-redis is more active.
This package has no reverse dep
Quoting Ross Gammon (2017-08-18 19:54:50)
> On 08/18/2017 06:09 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > Quoting Ross Gammon (2017-08-18 16:47:10)
> >> On 08/18/2017 04:50 AM, Hubert Chathi wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 09:27:49 +0200, Ross Gammon
> >>> s
s friction upstream.
It is not adequate to agree in this team about bundling code: As an
example, the security team tracks security bugs and will also need to
agree on such deviation from Debian Policy.
Personally I do *not* find bundling easier manageable than separately
tracking each true upstre
maintained - either upstream and in Debian.
I believe we cannot make a simple rule like "only 2 parallel releases",
but I believe we can easier identify potential problems if we have a
policy on "at least two team members must care specifically", as is
practiced in the Mu
t least for me it was not possible to connect with the example
> send_message.js to a jabberd2 with legacy ssl.
>
> Maybe it is time to remove this package and switch to xmpp.js?
Yes. Please kill it.
Thanks for the investigation.
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others reading this) could help package those. I will then upload
Coffeescript 2.x.x into experimental for testing compatibility with
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Quoting Ben Finney (2017-07-11 14:01:14)
> Control: retitle -1 libjs-bignumber: New version available upstream: 4.0.2
>
> On 20-May-2017, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>> Quoting Pirate Praveen (2017-05-20 07:57:32)
>>> Most likely this was packaged as a dependency of anoth
Quoting Johannes Schauer (2017-07-05 21:16:38)
> Quoting Jonas Smedegaard (2017-07-05 21:04:44)
> > Quoting Johannes Schauer (2017-07-05 18:26:40)
> > > Maybe I misunderstand but this bug report is not about "changing"
> > > or "bumping" anything.
Quoting Johannes Schauer (2017-07-05 18:26:40)
> Quoting Jonas Smedegaard (2017-07-05 17:46:19)
> > Quoting Johannes Schauer (2017-07-05 17:15:46)
> > > Standards-Version 3.9.8 is outdated. npm2deb should generate version
> > > 4.0.0 instead.
> > Just to avoid mi
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Quoting Pirate Praveen (2017-05-22 16:10:32)
> On തിങ്കള് 22 മെയ് 2017 06:41 വൈകു, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>> ...for the _initial_ packaging work.
>>
>> We are package *maintainers*.
>
> If you have not realized, we are discussing about maintaining an
> existing
gt; https://wiki.debian.org/Javascript/Nodejs/Tasks/npm ie, roughly about
> 78 new modules to package. If one person were to work full time, I
> think about 10-15 days time.
...for the _initial_ packaging work.
We are package *maintainers*.
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coffeescript,
yet it does not depend on coffeescript.
Is there any use cases without involving coffeescript?
l
packages, not only topmost ones in dependency trees!
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wouldn't do it until there was wider
> support for that. So any words of encouragement, or any suggestions of
> things that you would like to see from me before you would endorse me
> are welcome (here or in private).
Do it!
Was that adequate encouragement? :-)
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Quoting Sven Giermann (2017-03-17 22:32:54)
> 2017-03-17 11:22 GMT+01:00 Jonas Smedegaard :
>
>> How about fresh install of _Debian_ wheezy (not Emdebian wheezy)?
>>
>
> That's my main problem:
> I am unable to install wheezy or jessie, passing all tests supplied
Quoting Sven Giermann (2017-03-17 10:21:00)
> Jonas,
>
> thanks for your quick reply and the interest in my "problem". :-)
>
> 2017-03-17 9:47 GMT+01:00 Jonas Smedegaard :
>
> > Could you please elaborate on the "time to change to newer
> > distrib
want to be cc'ed on
replies: Normal for Debian lists (which I didn't follow in this post) is
to only reply to list.
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Seems the proper fix is to patch test/mocha/cli.js to not have a timeout
(or as workaround an insanely large timeout).
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> On 01/29/2017 02:31 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>> Quoting ano...@users.sourceforge.net (2017-01-29 14:12:59)
>>> I've been unable to upgrade nodejs and nodejs-dev thanks to this
>>> issue: I need npm for
ely or not but _concurrently_ -
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Discussing only here is not adequate: Being part of this team and
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tsuite itself being unreliable (too
sensible to slow hardware, perhaps). I have therefore temporarily
adapted the build routines to not fail if testsuite fails, and lowered
this bugreport to important.
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Currently packaged version 0.6.34 is 18 months old: Upstram is at
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seemingly does not depend on or recommend any non-free packages.
If this package really need to be in contrib, then please con
Quoting Pirate Praveen (2017-01-07 01:02:53)
> On വെള്ളി 06 ജനുവരി 2017 11:10 വൈകു, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 6:39 PM, Bastien ROUCARIES
> > wrote:
> >> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> >>> How abo
ges like node-fuzzaldrin-plus for the patch.
>
> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-javascript/node-fuzzaldrin-plus.git/tree/debian/patches/use-global-tasks.patch
How about patching the error message, as an intermediary step?
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Quoting Ximin Luo (2017-01-06 11:54:00)
> Jonas Smedegaard:
>>>> [..] I do not see this as sustainable and I will not approve any
>>>> more requests in this team. if we, as a team are unable to follow
>>>> the processes in line with the debian philosophy an
reasoning
(and appreciate that you didn't take even worse action!).
> Get your head out of your own ass, and stop acting like you're a
> victim here.
Go wash your mouth, and step back from your high horse: You are *not*
the boss around here (noone is), and you have no right to dicta
Quoting Julien Puydt (2017-01-05 18:41:22)
> On 05/01/2017 18:24, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > Quoting Ximin Luo (2017-01-05 17:50:00)
> >> I propose some reasonable checks, to ensure that we get people who are
> >> interested. I disagree that this attitude is fl
Quoting Ximin Luo (2017-01-05 17:50:00)
> I propose some reasonable checks, to ensure that we get people who are
> interested. I disagree that this attitude is flawed.
Thanks. Ximin.
What do others think?
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Quoting Ximin Luo (2017-01-05 16:26:00)
> Jonas Smedegaard:
> > Quoting Ximin Luo (2017-01-05 13:51:00)
> >>
> >> [..]
> >>
> >> The security aspect is just one factor, not the main factor.
> >
> > Ok, you now tell me that security is n
not* collaborating or *not* maintaining - we should never
refuse people based on fear that they will not do so in the future.
That's why I ask (but do not demand proof) if these concrete newcomers
are able and interested in not only releasing packages but also in
maint
everyone else (and newcomers in particular): Please feel welcome
in the javascript maintainers team when you feel able and interested in
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Quoting Ximin Luo (2017-01-05 13:51:00)
> Jonas Smedegaard:
>> Quoting Ximin Luo (2017-01-05 12:53:00)
>>> Pirate Praveen:
>>>> On വ്യാഴം 05 ജനുവരി 2017 04:22 വൈകു, Jérémy Lal wrote:
>>>>> This is great, but is this serious ?
>>>>> Anyon
s of
this team, and treat them accordingly (double-check what you pull, sign
changes you make, etc.). Making it harder to join this team does *not*
help secure our assets!
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tion is complete.
So these requests are from people ready to _upload_ a package into
Debian.
Are each and every one of them also ready to and interested in
*maintaining* the package that they have prepared for upload?
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Excerpts from Pirate Praveen's message of December 12, 2016 11:54 am:
On ശനി 10 ഡിസംബര് 2016 07:43 വൈകു, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
I generally use ~ because upstream may re-release _same_ version but
with DFSG-violating pieces stripped. Arguably that is dificult to do at
github but th
free", you could just drop the
~dfsg. Unless others can think of another use case?
I generally use ~ because upstream may re-release _same_ version but
with DFSG-violating pieces stripped. Arguably that is dificult to do at
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2016-12-09 12:48 GMT+01:00 Jonas Smedegaard :
I have prepared a new upstream release of uglifyjs - but it still fails
for me, as was the case also for last package (related to enabling
testsuite).
Please someone do the re
yours, causing my build
failures.
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Quoting Jonas Smedegaard (2016-11-29 08:56:59)
> Quoting Pirate Praveen (2016-11-29 07:55:30)
> > On ചൊവ്വ 29 നവംബര് 2016 11:38 രാവിലെ, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > > How? Please elaborate!
> > >
> > > Checking now with freshly updated unstable+incoming a
Quoting Pirate Praveen (2016-11-29 07:55:30)
> On ചൊവ്വ 29 നവംബര് 2016 11:38 രാവിലെ, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > How? Please elaborate!
> >
> > Checking now with freshly updated unstable+incoming archives and it
> > still fails to satisfy dependencies.
>
> I
[re-adding bugreport]]
Quoting Pirate Praveen (2016-11-29 06:56:23)
> On 2016, നവംബർ 29 10:05:58 AM IST, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>>Cannot build the new uglifyjs until bug#846076 is resolved.
>
> This is now fixed.
How? Please elaborate!
Checking now with freshly updated un
Quoting Jonas Smedegaard (2016-11-29 05:26:39)
> Seems to me that a simple chmod command is the right thing to use. I
> do that now, and try release the package - but you are quite welcome
> to suggest other approaches, or adapt the package yourself.
Cannot build the new uglifyjs
re quite welcome to
suggest other approaches, or adapt the package yourself.
Thanks for all your great work!
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bad shape in Debian
- but my (unsubstantiated) impression is that the cause is not that
Nodejs packages in general are badly maintained, but instead because of
the very aim of npm being not to fit Debian but to bypass it.
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Quoting Pirate Praveen (2016-11-23 08:37:39)
> On Tuesday 22 November 2016 10:53 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>> Ah, I understand you now: You present breakage when using code not in
>> Debian. Quite confusing - please *always* mention explicitly in
>> bugports when usin
Quoting Pirate Praveen (2016-11-22 17:54:32)
> On Tuesday 22 November 2016 10:19 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> >> I got this when running the updated uglifyjs package (before seeing your
> >> previous comment about yargs).
> >
> > What version is "the
Quoting Pirate Praveen (2016-11-22 16:50:42)
> On Mon, 05 Sep 2016 12:03:22 +0200 Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > Quoting Pirate Praveen (2016-09-05 09:22:06)
> > > nodejs bin/uglifyjs --help
> > > module.js:339
> > > throw err;
> > > ^
ackage, if you are uncomfortable with its
current CDBS packaging style. If you do that, then just beware that you
will effectively take over maintenance, as I am not comfortable with
short-form dh packaging style. But arguably that would be no big loss
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Would be great if you could look into those dependencies.
I believe I have some half-baked attemtps at updating the leaflet
package itself which I would like to dust off and check if still
relevent.
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ained by
this team then look who is listed as uploaders, and who in fact has
uploaded the most recent changes to the package - and try get in touch
with those explicitly to figure out if they are perhaps working on this
already.
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Quoting Pirate Praveen (2016-10-31 10:39:58)
> On Monday 31 October 2016 03:07 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> >> reducing severity to important, this does not have to block the release
> >> as it happens only in a few packages and which can easily be fixed.
> >
>
bug was fixed, then it _is_ a blocker!
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Hi Jochen (cc the bugreport),
[please follow up via the public bugreport rather than discretely]
Quoting Jochen Sprickerhof (2016-10-26 10:51:09)
> * Jonas Smedegaard [2016-10-25 19:27]:
> > If you have uploaded with delay, feel free to re-upload without
> > delay (the package
be - listed in LowThresholdNMU at our wiki).
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involve network access, and therefore
not TLS either. Example build environment. Bootstrapping a chroot with
ca-certificates takes more time and diskspace than without it.
The correct package relation to use if there are corner cases without
need is Recommends:.
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for next-next stable (i.e. in ~2019)
* May further tear apart our communities rather than unite
As I see it, the "right way from the POV of Debian is a), while from the
POV of the Node.js community it is c).
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ns some in the team package in a
style others do not agree with.
> On 07-10-16 15:21, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>> Quoting Paul Gevers (2016-10-07 14:09:43)
>>> A relate question: JavaScripts are often "combined" with Grunt. What
>>> is the current status/stance
hen they actually look closely at what you implement (but obviously
you might succeed at first with getting it into Debian if they don't).
Hope that helps.
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Quoting Paul Gevers (2016-09-18 18:14:34)
> On 09/18/16 17:50, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>> Does this imply you've also subscribed to our list now, or would you
>> still like to be cc'ed for conversations involving you there?
>
> I just did that, so from now on you ca
Quoting Jonas Smedegaard (2016-09-18 17:48:44)
> Quoting Paul Gevers (2016-09-18 09:40:30)
>> On 09/17/16 10:51, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>>> Quoting Paul Gevers (2016-09-16 20:01:27)
>>>> How are other JavaScript chains handling the lack of automatic API
>>>
d, Paul!
Does this imply you've also subscribed to our list now, or would you
still like to be cc'ed for conversations involving you there?
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Quoting Paul Gevers (2016-09-18 09:40:30)
> On 09/17/16 10:51, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>> Quoting Paul Gevers (2016-09-16 20:01:27)
>>> How are other JavaScript chains handling the lack of automatic API
>>> tracking?
>>
>> At least 16 packages unacceptably v
r list now, or would you
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Quoting Paul Gevers (2016-09-16 20:01:27)
> On 09/14/16 21:46, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > The Javascript team is only loosely coordinated: Not all of us nurse
> > all of the packages in the team.
>
> So how many are there approximately?
We are potentially 82
[drop old archived bug from cc]
Quoting Matijs van Zuijlen (2016-09-16 10:39:05)
> On 16/09/16 10:24, Jérémy Lal wrote:
> > 2016-09-16 10:22 GMT+02:00 Jonas Smedegaard > <mailto:d...@jones.dk>>:
> > Quoting Matijs van Zuijlen (2016-09-16 09:57:52)
> > > I read
t;very best" would be to drop npm from Debian ;-)
More to the point, however: Do npm work at all without nodejs-legacy?
If not, then npm itself should be moved to contrib!
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I agree we are not forbidden from suggesting: Seems to me the choice of
words by the Technical Committee was deliberate, as that matches how
packages outside of Debian (i.e. non-free stuff) is allowed to be
suggested only.
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