[issue6698] IDLE no longer opens only an edit window when configured to do so

Tal Einat added the comment: I agree on this. Unfortunately that change in r71126 wasn't commented on or documented in any way. -- nosy: +taleinat ___ Python tracker ___ ___

[issue6698] IDLE no longer opens only an edit window when configured to do so

Tal Einat added the comment: After looking through the code and experimenting a bit, I propose the following: The "editor-on-startup" config option should be removed. Running IDLE without arguments should open a shell. If IDLE is asked to open any files for editing, it should open just editor

[issue6698] IDLE no longer opens only an edit window when configured to do so

Ned Deily added the comment: Keep in mind that, on OS X, there are two ways to invoke IDLE: one, by command line in a terminal window, and, two, by launching IDLE.app (explicitly, say by double-clicking on the app icon, or implictily, say by double-clicking on a .py file where IDLE.app is the

[issue6698] IDLE no longer opens only an edit window when configured to do so

Tal Einat added the comment: My question is, when IDLE is run without arguments (as is the case for IDLE.app), what is the benefit opening an empty editor window as opposed to a shell window? In both cases if you just want to edit a file you must open it via the menus (e.g. File->Open or Fil

[issue6698] IDLE no longer opens only an edit window when configured to do so

Ronald Oussoren added the comment: The current behaviour on OSX for IDLE.app is to always open a shell window, and open edit windows for any files that should be opened during launch. IDLE.app does not open an empty edit window, and I agree that this is sane behaviour. One other thing that m

[issue6698] IDLE no longer opens only an edit window when configured to do so

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: When I click r71126 it is mapped to bc084a97318b for #1529142 KBK msg85379 says "The -e option now only opens an editor window," I think I agree with Tal's suggestion as long as thing still work ok on Mac. It is trivial to open a new empty window from the shel

[issue6698] IDLE no longer opens only an edit window when configured to do so

Roger Serwy added the comment: Attached is a patch to correct the existing bug as-is. Should the behavior of IDLE be changed as Tal suggests? -- keywords: +patch nosy: +serwy Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file23911/issue6698.patch ___ Python t

[issue6698] IDLE no longer opens only an edit window when configured to do so

New submission from Guilherme Polo : If someone configure IDLE to start a edit window by default, I believe it should open only an edit window without starting shell window. This has been the behaviour in previous version, but it is acting different now. I looked into r71126 and I think this beh

[issue6698] IDLE no longer opens only an edit window when configured to do so

Roger Serwy added the comment: We can fix the "bug" as-is and then open a separate enhancement issue for Tal's suggestions. I place bug in quotes because the correct behavior is not documented. -- assignee: -> roger.serwy nosy: +Todd.Rovito stage: -> patch review type: -> behavior

[issue6698] IDLE no longer opens only an edit window when configured to do so

Todd Rovito added the comment: Roger, I reviewed and tested the patch, it does seem to fix the "bug". Now when the on startup configure option is selected IDLE will behave as expected. I think this makes sense to fix the bug even though it is not documented we can infer the behavior based

[issue6698] IDLE no longer opens only an edit window when configured to do so

Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset 240c83902fca by Roger Serwy in branch '2.7': #6698: IDLE now opens just an editor window when configured to do so. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/240c83902fca New changeset 174caf4c901a by Roger Serwy in branch '3.3': #6698: IDLE now opens just an

[issue6698] IDLE no longer opens only an edit window when configured to do so

Roger Serwy added the comment: Thanks Todd for the review! If you have time, could you open a new issue to deal with the enhancements discussed here? -- resolution: -> fixed stage: patch review -> committed/rejected status: open -> closed ___ Python

[issue6698] IDLE no longer opens only an edit window when configured to do so

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: If we are not sure of the 'right' behavior in cases like this, we can ask for opinions on idle-dev. That is at least part of its purpose. Does anyone there use any of the options? -- ___ Python tracker

[issue6698] IDLE no longer opens only an edit window when configured to do so

Roger Serwy added the comment: Terry, I read over the revision in r71126 and it looked like the behavior change was an unintended consequence of applying an ephemeral ports patch. That and Todd's reasoning of the correct behavior being inferrable from the configuration dialog convinced me that

[issue6698] IDLE no longer opens only an edit window when configured to do so

Terry J. Reedy added the comment: If at least three of you are in agreement, great. Take my comment as a general one for other issues, when applicable ;-). -- ___ Python tracker

[issue6698] IDLE no longer opens only an edit window when configured to do so

Roger Serwy added the comment: Will do, Terry! :-) -- ___ Python tracker ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mai

[issue6698] IDLE no longer opens only an edit window when configured to do so

Ned Deily added the comment: With the patch applied, I verified that the launch behavior of OS X IDLE.app is unchanged as expected. -- ___ Python tracker ___

[issue6698] IDLE no longer opens only an edit window when configured to do so

Todd Rovito added the comment: Roger, Yes I will add another issue covering the enhancement. Ned, Thanks for the review. I forgot to mention it but I too tested on the Mac :-). -- ___ Python tracker ___