Re: [Python-Dev] How do we tell if we're helping or hindering the core development process? (was Re: How far to go with user-friendliness)

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 7:09 AM, Paul Moore wrote: > does anyone seriously think a core dev > commits code as a joke??? > Yes, . :-) ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org https://mail.python.o

Re: [Python-Dev] Devguide - Add Communications Quick Start Section

Carol Willing writes: > The Communications Quick Start section would be brief and practical > much like the Quick Start section for downloading and testing the > source code. +1, thanks for the practical contribution! -- \ “Anyone who puts a small gloss on [a] fundamental technology, |

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 447 (type.__getdescriptor__)

> On 22 Jul 2015, at 19:12, Steve Dower wrote: > > Terry Reedy wrote: >> On 7/22/2015 3:25 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Another summer with another EuroPython, which means its time again to >>> try to revive PEP 447… >>> >>> I’ve just pushes a minor update to the PEP and would li

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 447 (type.__getdescriptor__)

> On 22 Jul 2015, at 18:02, Terry Reedy wrote: > > On 7/22/2015 3:25 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Another summer with another EuroPython, which means its time again to >> try to revive PEP 447… >> >> I’ve just pushes a minor update to the PEP and would like to get some >> feedback o

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 447 (type.__getdescriptor__)

Terry Reedy wrote: > On 7/22/2015 3:25 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Another summer with another EuroPython, which means its time again to >> try to revive PEP 447… >> >> I’ve just pushes a minor update to the PEP and would like to get some >> feedback on this, arguably fairly esoteric, P

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 447 (type.__getdescriptor__)

On 7/22/2015 3:25 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: Hi, Another summer with another EuroPython, which means its time again to try to revive PEP 447… I’ve just pushes a minor update to the PEP and would like to get some feedback on this, arguably fairly esoteric, PEP. Yeh, a bit too esoteric for most

Re: [Python-Dev] How do we tell if we're helping or hindering the core development process?

On Jul 22 2015, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On 22 July 2015 at 13:23, Nikolaus Rath wrote: >> If it were up to me, I'd focus all the resources of the PSF on reducing >> this backlog - be that by hiring some core developers to work full-time >> on just the open bugtracker issues, or by financing develop

Re: [Python-Dev] How do we tell if we're helping or hindering the core development process? (was Re: How far to go with user-friendliness)

On 22 July 2015 at 12:09, Paul Moore wrote: > 5. Assume that the decision was well-considered and made with good > reasons. If you don't understand the reasons, and feel you need to, > ask for them, but refrain from judgement until you have the reasons. > The original mail in this thread ("is this

Re: [Python-Dev] Devguide - Add Communications Quick Start Section

On 21 July 2015 at 18:06, Carol Willing wrote: > The Communications Quick Start section would be brief and practical much > like the Quick Start section for downloading and testing the source code. > Placing the Communications Quick Start section before the existing Quick > Start section would emp

Re: [Python-Dev] How do we tell if we're helping or hindering the core development process? (was Re: How far to go with user-friendliness)

On 22 July 2015 at 03:18, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > The only *practical* suggestion from "the core" has been self- > restraint on the part of "the crowd" I would have said the following has been covered, but maybe not. At the risk of repeating something that's already been said, here are some

Re: [Python-Dev] How do we tell if we're helping or hindering the core development process?

* Nikolaus Rath [2015-07-21 20:23:15 -0700]: > On Jul 21 2015, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > All of this is why the chart that I believe should be worrying people > > is the topmost one on this page: > > http://bugs.python.org/issue?@template=stats > > > > Both the number of open issues and the number

Re: [Python-Dev] How far to go with user-friendliness

Since I started this thread: I like mock's magic I appreciate plain language extra features (.called, .reset_mock(), .side_effect, etc) [1] I even appreciate assert* error magic [2] assret* is just puzzling, unexpected. [1] those who want clear separation like `._assert_called_with()` are going t

[Python-Dev] PEP 447 (type.__getdescriptor__)

Hi, Another summer with another EuroPython, which means its time again to try to revive PEP 447… I’ve just pushes a minor update to the PEP and would like to get some feedback on this, arguably fairly esoteric, PEP. The PEP proposes to to replace direct access to the class __dict__ in object.

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3.4.3 on RedHat 6.6 s390x make fails with: make: *** [sharedmods] Error 139

Hi Jo, Terry has right, however, if you launch this command before the compilation, it should work: https://github.com/saghul/pythonz/blob/master/README.rst#rpm-family-centos-rhel In case of it doesn't work, please contact me privately to avoid to pollute this mailing list. Have a nice day. Lud