Keith Dart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> A.M. Kuchling wrote:
>> On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 03:32:03PM -0200, Carlos Ribeiro wrote:
>>
>>>Of course, the point here is not Perl-bashing. The point here is that
>>>we should be able to "sell" Python better than we do now, even without
>>>the need to res
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, Aahz wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 14, 2004, Gregory P. Smith wrote:
> >Attribution deleted:
> >>
> >> No one disagrees that Python needs better marketing material. At the
> >> last PyCon a group of people sat down in a pydotorg BoF and agreed
> >> that yes, we do need a management-fr
A.M. Kuchling wrote:
On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 03:32:03PM -0200, Carlos Ribeiro wrote:
Of course, the point here is not Perl-bashing. The point here is that
we should be able to "sell" Python better than we do now, even without
the need to resort to such poor measures. I'm sure the Python
community d
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004, Gregory P. Smith wrote:
>Attribution deleted:
>>
>> No one disagrees that Python needs better marketing material. At the
>> last PyCon a group of people sat down in a pydotorg BoF and agreed
>> that yes, we do need a management-friendly marketing site, and that we
>> could p
On Wed, 2004-12-15 at 07:32, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> about.python.org?
>
> And if someone ends up playing with the DNS server, maybe they could add
> wiki.python.org while they're at it :)
DNS changes have to go through pydotorg at python.org, since Thomas is
the person currently able to add host
Oleg Broytmann wrote:
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 10:21:58PM -0800, Gregory P. Smith wrote:
suggested hostname: why.python.org
It's only a matter of taste, probably, but that looks a bit ugly for
my eyes. May be use.python.org? corp.python.org?
about.python.org?
And if someone ends up playing with
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 10:21:58PM -0800, Gregory P. Smith wrote:
> suggested hostname: why.python.org
It's only a matter of taste, probably, but that looks a bit ugly for
my eyes. May be use.python.org? corp.python.org?
Oleg.
--
Oleg Broytmannhttp://phd.pp.ru/[EM
> > we should be able to "sell" Python better than we do now, even without
> > the need to resort to such poor measures. I'm sure the Python
> > community does have good & creative people that can write a good
> > "selling" FAQ for Python, emphasizing the main points of the language.
>
> No one di
On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 03:32:03PM -0200, Carlos Ribeiro wrote:
> Of course, the point here is not Perl-bashing. The point here is that
> we should be able to "sell" Python better than we do now, even without
> the need to resort to such poor measures. I'm sure the Python
> community does have good
> That's right -
> when I talk to fellow programmers that I'm writing software in Python,
> many of them are amazed and ask me, "but isn't it slow?". I've heard
> it more than once...
I heard it last month.
In the last couple of months, an acquaintance of mine has been trying
out Python. He like
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:57:07 PST, Bill Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Apparently the Python program, which applies the same re substitutions
> in the same order as the Perl program, takes 3 times as long to run.
> He thinks it's because of mutable strings in Perl -- that is, he
> thinks the s
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004, Jeremy Hylton wrote:
> > http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/09/24/39FErrdev_1.html?s=feature
>
> Can we extrapolate from the numbers here to get an estimate of how
> many Python developers there are? I was asked for that number at
> workshop a few months ago and I didn't hav
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:11:38 -0500 (EST), Stephan Deibel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Dec 2004, Jeremy Hylton wrote:
> > Two possibilities come to mind. 1) 14% of developers in the survey
> > work at companies that use Python. How many developers are there?
> > Assume that 14% of them
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004, Batista, Facundo wrote:
> [Stephan Deibel]
>
> #- For example, a September article in InfoWorld said "But the
> #- big winner
> #- this time around is the object-oriented scripting language
> #- Python, which
> #- saw a 6 percent gain in popularity, almost doubling last
> #
Title: RE: [Python-Dev] Re: Re: 2.4 news reaches interesting places
[Stephan Deibel]
#- For example, a September article in InfoWorld said "But the
#- big winner
#- this time around is the object-oriented scripting language
#- Python, which
#- saw a 6 percent gain in popularity, a
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 11:30:45 -0500 (EST), Stephan Deibel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For example, a September article in InfoWorld said "But the big winner
> this time around is the object-oriented scripting language Python, which
> saw a 6 percent gain in popularity, almost doubling last year's r
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004, Carlos Ribeiro wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 20:36:45 -0500, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Actually, there's another problem in the corporate world that has
> > nothing to do with Python's performance (at least not directly). When a
> > manager has to hire 25 prog
On Sun, 2004-12-12 at 12:32, Carlos Ribeiro wrote:
> For those who believe that a non-profit project should not do any
> marketing, a reminder. If the perception about Python is one of a slow
> language, it's much more difficult to find places where you can use
> Python. In the long run, many of u
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 20:36:45 -0500, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-12-12 at 12:32, Carlos Ribeiro wrote:
>
> > For those who believe that a non-profit project should not do any
> > marketing, a reminder. If the perception about Python is one of a slow
> > language, it's muc
Hello all,
Just to complement my previous remarks, I would like to point out how
do a competing language defines itself in its own website. The
perl.org website has a simple faq that is a good piece of marketing.
What follows are direct quotes, just to point out how ot handle the
market perception
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 17:10:58 +0100, Erik Heneryd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Fredrik Lundh wrote:
> >>>fwiw, IDG's Computer Sweden, "sweden's leading IT-newspaper" has a
> >>>surprisingly big Python article in their most recent issue:
> >>>
> >>>PYTHON FEELS WELL
> >>>Better performance b
Fredrik Lundh wrote:
fwiw, IDG's Computer Sweden, "sweden's leading IT-newspaper" has a
surprisingly big Python article in their most recent issue:
PYTHON FEELS WELL
Better performance biggest news in 2.4
and briefly interviews swedish zope-developer Johan Carlsson and Python-
Ware co-found
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