Re: XSLT to Python script conversion?

2012-02-15 Thread Tim Arnold
On 2/13/2012 6:20 AM, Matej Cepl wrote: Hi, I am getting more and more discouraged from using XSLT for a transformation from one XML scheme to another one. Does anybody could share any experience with porting moderately complicated XSLT stylesheet (https://gitorious.org/sword/czekms-csp_bible/bl

Re: Wanted: Criticism of code for a Python module, plus a Mac tester

2012-02-15 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:11 PM, HoneyMonster wrote: > As to your first suggestion though, I am having some difficulty. Note > that the vulnerability rotates; i.e. CONDITIONS[4] is not the same as > CONDITIONS[0]. > Is there a better way of doing it than a simple list.append()? Ah, it's more comp

Web browser Python programming in NCLab

2012-02-15 Thread Pavel Solin
Hello, the NCLab development team would like to invite everybody to try out Python programming in the web browser at www.nclab.com. Using NCLab is free for personal, non-commercial purposes. If you'd like to give us feedback how we are doing, please use the mailing list nclab-u...@googlegroups.co

Re: [semi OT]: Smartphones and Python?

2012-02-15 Thread Michael Torrie
On 02/15/2012 07:38 PM, 8 Dihedral wrote: > In the 4 G space of SW AP in Adndroid phones, > check Jython. But I think a better data compression > modules is more helpful. Jython, though a very cool and useful implementation, relies on the Java virtual machine to run. It does not yet run on

Re: [semi OT]: Smartphones and Python?

2012-02-15 Thread 88888 Dihedral
在 2012年2月16日星期四UTC+8上午10时19分15秒,geremy condra写道: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Martin Schöön > wrote: > > First of all: I don't have any first hand experience of smartphones > > but now that my trusted old GSM phone is getting old I decided I am > > in for an up-grade. It struck me it might

Re: [semi OT]: Smartphones and Python?

2012-02-15 Thread geremy condra
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Martin Schöön wrote: > First of all: I don't have any first hand experience of smartphones > but now that my trusted old GSM phone is getting old I decided I am > in for an up-grade. It struck me it might be nice to get something > for which I could write Python p

Re: format a measurement result and its error in "scientific" way

2012-02-15 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Daniel Fetchinson wrote: > Hi folks, often times in science one expresses a value (say > 1.03789291) and its error (say 0.00089) in a short way by parentheses > like so: 1.0379(9) > > One can vary things a bit, but let's take the simplest case when we > only keep 1

Re: Wanted: Criticism of code for a Python module, plus a Mac tester

2012-02-15 Thread HoneyMonster
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:07:48 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:33 PM, HoneyMonster > wrote: >> Secondly, as a more general point I would welcome comments on code >> quality, adherence to standards and so forth. The code is at: > > Looks pretty nice overall. To reduce repetitio

Re: Wanted: Criticism of code for a Python module, plus a Mac tester

2012-02-15 Thread Tim Chase
On 02/15/12 17:33, HoneyMonster wrote: Firstly, is there anyone here who uses Python on a Mac and would be prepared to test it? I have tested it on Linux and Windows, but don't have access to a Mac. It works from my quick test of it on my Mac. The "class Player():" and the .format() calls cho

Re: Complexity question on Python 3 lists

2012-02-15 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:20:21 +0100, Franck Ditter wrote: > What is the cost of calling primes(n) below ? I'm mainly interested in > knowing if the call to append is O(1) Your primes() function appears to be a variation on trial division, which is asymptotically O(n*sqrt(n)/(log n)**2). Regardles

format a measurement result and its error in "scientific" way

2012-02-15 Thread Daniel Fetchinson
Hi folks, often times in science one expresses a value (say 1.03789291) and its error (say 0.00089) in a short way by parentheses like so: 1.0379(9) One can vary things a bit, but let's take the simplest case when we only keep 1 digit of the error (and round it of course) and round the value corre

Re: Wanted: Criticism of code for a Python module, plus a Mac tester

2012-02-15 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:33 PM, HoneyMonster wrote: > Secondly, as a more general point I would welcome comments on code > quality, adherence to standards and so forth. The code is at: Looks pretty nice overall. To reduce repetition, I would have constructed the CONDITIONS list by iteration lik

Re: Interactive keyword help

2012-02-15 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:23:20 -0600, Andrew Berg wrote: > help() is a built-in function, not a keyword. > http://docs.python.org/library/functions.html#help > http://docs.python.org/py3k/library/functions.html#help Technically, it's not actually built-in, it is added to the built-ins by site.py.

Re: TEST AN EXECUTABLE PYTHON SCRIPT SPEED UNDER A PYTHON SHELL

2012-02-15 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 5:48 AM, Dave Angel wrote: > When you reply to a known bot, please include some indication of the fact, > so we know your message can be ignored as well. Sometimes I wonder about 8. Is there a real person there, as well as the bot? A lot of his/its posts look too intel

Re: [semi OT]: Smartphones and Python?

2012-02-15 Thread Paul Rubin
Martin Schöön writes: > A very quick internet search indicated that this should be no big > deal if I go for an Android-based phone. What about the alternatives? It works pretty well with Maemo, though phones with that are not so easy to find. My ex-officemate wrote some SL4A (Android) apps in P

Wanted: Criticism of code for a Python module, plus a Mac tester

2012-02-15 Thread HoneyMonster
I am quite new to Python (running Python 2.7 on Linux). I have written a very small and simple dealing module for the game of Bridge. For those unfamiliar with the game, the idea is to deal each of 4 players a hand of 13 cards from a pack of 52, and to display it thus (use a fixed pitch font):

Re: [semi OT]: Smartphones and Python?

2012-02-15 Thread MRAB
On 15/02/2012 20:58, Martin Schöön wrote: First of all: I don't have any first hand experience of smartphones but now that my trusted old GSM phone is getting old I decided I am in for an up-grade. It struck me it might be nice to get something for which I could write Python programs. A very qui

Re: Stand-Alone Python Executable Skeletons

2012-02-15 Thread Chris Rebert
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Calvin Spealman wrote: > I've recently been looking into different options to package python > code into stand-alone executables, with tools like Py2EXE and > PyInstaller, but I'm left feeling a little lost. Documentation seems > sparse on all of them, the setups a

Re: Complexity question on Python 3 lists

2012-02-15 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:11:27 -0800, Chris Rebert > wrote: > > >>"The growth pattern is: 0, 4, 8, 16, 25, 35, 46, 58, 72, 88, …" >>    -- list_resize() >> >        Rather perverse, is it not? The first set is plain doubling, but > then yo

Stand-Alone Python Executable Skeletons

2012-02-15 Thread Calvin Spealman
I've recently been looking into different options to package python code into stand-alone executables, with tools like Py2EXE and PyInstaller, but I'm left feeling a little lost. Documentation seems sparse on all of them, the setups a little unusual to me. It feels like they could be a lot simpler,

Re: Is this the right list?

2012-02-15 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 15/02/2012 21:51, Alan McKay wrote: Hey folks, I looked all through the list of mailing lists on the mail.python.orgserver and this seems to be the only one that might apply to me other than maybe the German list which did not seem to have any specific python issue associated with it other th

Re: Is this the right list?

2012-02-15 Thread Terry Reedy
On 2/15/2012 4:51 PM, Alan McKay wrote: I am having a problem moving an application from RHEL 5.7 to Ubuntu 11.11, and the problem is around .py program. It is a web based program, and seems to use a strange combination of mod_python and python CGI as best I can tell. Would this be the right l

Re: Looking for PyPi 2.0...

2012-02-15 Thread Nathan Rice
> Hopefully soon crate.io will be useful for finding modules ;) I have plans > for it to try and, encourage people to host their code and encourage > following packaging standards. I'm currently focused mostly on the backend > stability (e.g. getting it stable) but emphasizing things that are gener

Is this the right list?

2012-02-15 Thread Alan McKay
Hey folks, I looked all through the list of mailing lists on the mail.python.orgserver and this seems to be the only one that might apply to me other than maybe the German list which did not seem to have any specific python issue associated with it other than that you should write German on it. I

Re: Script randomly exits for seemingly no reason with strange traceback

2012-02-15 Thread Andrew Berg
On 2/15/2012 3:28 PM, John Nagle wrote: > Are you doing a conditional import, one that takes place after load > time? If you do an import within a function or class, it is executed > when the code around it executes. If you import a file with a > syntax error during execution, you could get the e

Re: Complexity question on Python 3 lists

2012-02-15 Thread Terry Reedy
On 2/15/2012 2:11 PM, Chris Rebert wrote: It's slightly more complex: http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/096b31e0f8ea/Objects/listobject.c "The growth pattern is: 0, 4, 8, 16, 25, 35, 46, 58, 72, 88, …" -- list_resize() This has apparently changed from time to time. -- Terry Jan Reedy -

Re: atexit.register in case of errors

2012-02-15 Thread Terry Reedy
On 2/15/2012 8:12 AM, Andrea Crotti wrote: I have the following very simplified situation from atexit import register def goodbye(): print("saying goodbye") def main(): > while True: var = raw_input("read something") if __name__ == '__main__': > register(goodbye) > main() But in my

Re: Looking for PyPi 2.0...

2012-02-15 Thread Donald Stufft
On Wednesday, February 15, 2012 at 4:24 PM, John Nagle wrote: > On 2/8/2012 9:47 AM, Chris Rebert wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Nathan Rice > > mailto:nathan.alexander.r...@gmail.com)> > > wrote: > > > As a user: > > > * Finding the right module in PyPi is a pain because there is limi

Re: Script randomly exits for seemingly no reason with strange traceback

2012-02-15 Thread John Nagle
On 2/4/2012 12:43 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 3:32 AM, Andrew Berg wrote: On 2/3/2012 9:15 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: Do you call on potentially-buggy external modules? It imports one module that does little more than define a few simple functions. There's certainly no (in

Re: Looking for PyPi 2.0...

2012-02-15 Thread John Nagle
On 2/8/2012 9:47 AM, Chris Rebert wrote: On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Nathan Rice wrote: As a user: * Finding the right module in PyPi is a pain because there is limited, low quality semantic information, and there is no code indexing. CPAN does it right. They host the code. (PyPi is

Numerical Linear Algebra in arbitrary precision

2012-02-15 Thread Ken
Brand new Python user and a bit overwhelmed with the variety of packages available. Any recommendation for performing numerical linear algebra (specifically least squares and generalized least squares using QR or SVD) in arbitrary precision? I've been looking at mpmath but can't seem to find much

[semi OT]: Smartphones and Python?

2012-02-15 Thread Martin Schöön
First of all: I don't have any first hand experience of smartphones but now that my trusted old GSM phone is getting old I decided I am in for an up-grade. It struck me it might be nice to get something for which I could write Python programs. A very quick internet search indicated that this shoul

Re: writing to a file from within nested loops

2012-02-15 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 15/02/2012 20:12, Rituparna Sengupta wrote: Hi, I'm working on this code and I keep getting an error. It might be some very basic thing but I was wondering if someone could help. Its a loop within a loop. The part outside the innermost loop gets printed fine, but the part within the innerm

Re: writing to a file from within nested loops

2012-02-15 Thread Dave Angel
On 02/15/2012 03:12 PM, Rituparna Sengupta wrote: Hi, I'm working on this code and I keep getting an error. It might be some very basic thing but I was wondering if someone could help. Its a loop within a loop. The part outside the innermost loop gets printed fine, but the part within the inn

Re: writing to a file from within nested loops

2012-02-15 Thread Chris Rebert
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Rituparna Sengupta wrote: > Hi, > > I'm working on this code and I keep getting an error. It might be some very > basic thing but I was wondering if someone could help. Its a loop within a > loop. The part outside the innermost loop gets printed fine, but the pa

Re: writing to a file from within nested loops

2012-02-15 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Rituparna Sengupta wrote: > Hi, > > I'm working on this code and I keep getting an error. It might be some very > basic thing but I was wondering if someone could help. Its a loop within a > loop. The part outside the innermost loop gets printed fine, but the par

writing to a file from within nested loops

2012-02-15 Thread Rituparna Sengupta
Hi, I'm working on this code and I keep getting an error. It might be some very basic thing but I was wondering if someone could help. Its a loop within a loop. The part outside the innermost loop gets printed fine, but the part within the innermost loop doesn't get printed. I get an error: 'st

Re: Kill files [was Re: OT: Entitlements [was Re: Python usage numbers]]

2012-02-15 Thread Ethan Furman
Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:04:34 +, Duncan Booth wrote: Actually, I thought it was a bit weird that I saw ChrisA's comment but not the message he was commenting on until I went and looked for it. I read this group on a couple of machines and it looks like Rick's killfile

Python to Combine Multiple Excel Worksheets into One Worksheet

2012-02-15 Thread SMac2347
Hello, I have one single Excel file with many separate worksheets, and for work I need to combine all these separate worksheets into one single worksheet (I am not worried about formatting, as the format is the same in each sheet, nor am I worried about Excel's row limit). Essentially, I am lookin

Re: Complexity question on Python 3 lists

2012-02-15 Thread Chris Rebert
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Franck Ditter wrote: >> Do lists in Python 3 behave like ArrayList in Java (if the capacity >> is full, then the array grows by more than 1 element) ? > > I believe the behavior in CPython is that if the array

Re: Complexity question on Python 3 lists

2012-02-15 Thread Stefan Behnel
Ian Kelly, 15.02.2012 19:43: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Franck Ditter wrote: >> Do lists in Python 3 behave like ArrayList in Java (if the capacity >> is full, then the array grows by more than 1 element) ? > > I believe the behavior in CPython is that if the array is full, the > capacity

Re: TEST AN EXECUTABLE PYTHON SCRIPT SPEED UNDER A PYTHON SHELL

2012-02-15 Thread Dave Angel
On 02/15/2012 01:36 PM, Miki Tebeka wrote: It depends on the overall runtime of the script vs start time of the vm. But yes in most benchmarks the script start time will bias against scripted languages. On a site note: ALL CAPS is considered shouting, please don't use that in news groups. Whe

Re: Complexity question on Python 3 lists

2012-02-15 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Franck Ditter wrote: > What is the cost of calling primes(n) below ? I'm mainly interested in > knowing if the call to append is O(1), even amortized. Yes, it's amortized O(1). See: http://wiki.python.org/moin/TimeComplexity >From a relatively shallow analysis

Re: Complexity question on Python 3 lists

2012-02-15 Thread Dave Angel
On 02/15/2012 01:20 PM, Franck Ditter wrote: What is the cost of calling primes(n) below ? I'm mainly interested in knowing if the call to append is O(1), even amortized. Do lists in Python 3 behave like ArrayList in Java (if the capacity is full, then the array grows by more than 1 element) ? d

Re: atexit.register in case of errors

2012-02-15 Thread Miki Tebeka
Another option is to use a global error flag and set it in sys.excepthook (see http://docs.python.org/library/sys.html#sys.excepthook). goodbye will check the error flag and skip execution if error flag is set. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: TEST AN EXECUTABLE PYTHON SCRIPT SPEED UNDER A PYTHON SHELL

2012-02-15 Thread Miki Tebeka
It depends on the overall runtime of the script vs start time of the vm. But yes in most benchmarks the script start time will bias against scripted languages. On a site note: ALL CAPS is considered shouting, please don't use that in news groups. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyth

Re: Complexity question on Python 3 lists

2012-02-15 Thread Chris Rebert
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Franck Ditter wrote: > What is the cost of calling primes(n) below ? I'm mainly interested in > knowing if the call to append is O(1), even amortized. > Do lists in Python 3 behave like ArrayList in Java (if the capacity > is full, then the array grows by more tha

Re: how to tell a method is classmethod or static method or instance method

2012-02-15 Thread Nathan Rice
> And I'll take this opportunity to plug my dualmethod descriptor: > > http://code.activestate.com/recipes/577030-dualmethod-descriptor/ I use an analogous pattern in SQL Alchemy all the time (it's called hybridmethod/hybridproperty there). +1 to dualmethod, that pattern is great when you want a

Complexity question on Python 3 lists

2012-02-15 Thread Franck Ditter
What is the cost of calling primes(n) below ? I'm mainly interested in knowing if the call to append is O(1), even amortized. Do lists in Python 3 behave like ArrayList in Java (if the capacity is full, then the array grows by more than 1 element) ? def sdiv(n) : # n >= 2 """returns the sm

Re: Automatic Type Conversion to String

2012-02-15 Thread Ned Deily
In article , Bruce Eckel wrote: > Also, I discovered that the attempt to create a "Path" class goes back > to 2006, where it created a lot of discussion and was finally shelved: > http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0355/ > > A significant part of the problem seems to be that there was no > inhe

Re: Interactive keyword help

2012-02-15 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 15/02/2012 17:27, Arnaud Delobelle wrote: On 15 February 2012 17:23, Andrew Berg wrote: On 2/15/2012 10:04 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: I didn't realise that this was available until today. It doesn't appear to be prominent in the official docs or have I missed something? Certainly I'd have th

Re: Interactive keyword help

2012-02-15 Thread Arnaud Delobelle
On 15 February 2012 17:23, Andrew Berg wrote: > On 2/15/2012 10:04 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> I didn't realise that this was available until today.  It doesn't appear >> to be prominent in the official docs or have I missed something? >> Certainly I'd have thought a couple of sentences here >> ht

Re: Interactive keyword help

2012-02-15 Thread Andrew Berg
On 2/15/2012 10:04 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > I didn't realise that this was available until today. It doesn't appear > to be prominent in the official docs or have I missed something? > Certainly I'd have thought a couple of sentences here > http://www.python.org/about/help/ would be justified

Re: OT: Entitlements [was Re: Python usage numbers]

2012-02-15 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 15/02/2012 16:27, Rick Johnson wrote: On Feb 15, 9:18 am, Mark Lawrence wrote: As you didn't answer my question from some days back I'll ask it agin. Please explain why previously healthy people get struck down with Common Fatigue Syndrome amongst other things. Why do you seek my counsel r

Re: OT: Entitlements [was Re: Python usage numbers]

2012-02-15 Thread Rick Johnson
On Feb 15, 9:18 am, Mark Lawrence wrote: > As you didn't answer my question from some days back I'll ask it agin. > Please explain why previously healthy people get struck down with Common > Fatigue Syndrome amongst other things. Why do you seek my counsel regarding medical ailments? Do you belie

Interactive keyword help

2012-02-15 Thread Mark Lawrence
I didn't realise that this was available until today. It doesn't appear to be prominent in the official docs or have I missed something? Certainly I'd have thought a couple of sentences here http://www.python.org/about/help/ would be justified, what do y'all think? -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence.

Re: atexit.register in case of errors

2012-02-15 Thread Andrea Crotti
On 02/15/2012 03:18 PM, Thomas Rachel wrote: Wouldn't if __name__ == '__main__': try: main() finally: goodbye() be even better? Or doesn't it work well together with SystemExit? Thomas Well in that case goodbye is always called, even if I have some other nasty exce

Re: atexit.register in case of errors

2012-02-15 Thread Thomas Rachel
Am 15.02.2012 14:52 schrieb Devin Jeanpierre: On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Mel Wilson wrote: The usual way to do what you're asking is if __name__ == '__main__': main() goodbye() and write main so that it returns after it's done all the things it's supposed to do. If you've sprin

Re: OT: Entitlements [was Re: Python usage numbers]

2012-02-15 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 15/02/2012 15:04, Rick Johnson wrote: On Feb 15, 2:56 am, John O'Hagan wrote: John, I have grown weary of educating you. Go back to your day job writing op-eds for the National Inquirer and News of the World; they love this vile sensationalist crap! Goodnight "John boy". The News of the

Re: OT: Entitlements [was Re: Python usage numbers]

2012-02-15 Thread Rick Johnson
On Feb 15, 2:56 am, John O'Hagan wrote: > You have just demonstrated that you are the worst kind of racist. Not only > have > you blamed the victim on a truly monstrous scale, you have assigned blame not > to > individuals, but to entire "races". Your tabloid sensationalism is the worst i've s

Re: Automatic Type Conversion to String

2012-02-15 Thread Bruce Eckel
> Could it be that you missed the fact that strings are immutable? That > means that you can't change the content of the object once it is > initialized. In particular, it means that you e.g. have to override > __new__ instead of __init__, because the content is already fixed when > the latter is c

Re: atexit.register in case of errors

2012-02-15 Thread Andrea Crotti
On 02/15/2012 01:52 PM, Devin Jeanpierre wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Mel Wilson wrote: The usual way to do what you're asking is if __name__ == '__main__': main() goodbye() and write main so that it returns after it's done all the things it's supposed to do. If you've spr

[ANN]: Python module to distribute computations for parallel execution

2012-02-15 Thread Giridhar Pemmasani
Hello, I would like to announce dispy (http://dispy.sourceforge.net), a python framework for distributing computations for parallel execution to processors/cores on single node to many nodes over the network. The computations can be python functions or programs. If there are any dependencies, such

Re: atexit.register in case of errors

2012-02-15 Thread Devin Jeanpierre
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Mel Wilson wrote: > The usual way to do what you're asking is > > if __name__ == '__main__': >    main() >    goodbye() > > and write main so that it returns after it's done all the things it's > supposed to do.  If you've sprinkled `sys.exit()` all over your code,

Re: re module: Nothing to repeat, but no sre_constants.error: nothing to repeat ?

2012-02-15 Thread Devin Jeanpierre
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 9:08 PM, MRAB wrote: > There is one place in the re engine where it tries to avoid getting > stuck in an infinite loop because of a zero-width match, but the fix > inadvertently causes another bug. It's described in issue #1647489. Just read the issue. Interesting, didn't

Re: atexit.register in case of errors

2012-02-15 Thread Mel Wilson
Andrea Crotti wrote: > I have the following very simplified situation > > from atexit import register > > > def goodbye(): > print("saying goodbye") > > > def main(): > while True: > var = raw_input("read something") > > > if __name__ == '__main__': > register(goodby

atexit.register in case of errors

2012-02-15 Thread Andrea Crotti
I have the following very simplified situation from atexit import register def goodbye(): print("saying goodbye") def main(): while True: var = raw_input("read something") if __name__ == '__main__': register(goodbye) main() But in my case the "goodbye" function is

Kill files [was Re: OT: Entitlements [was Re: Python usage numbers]]

2012-02-15 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:04:34 +, Duncan Booth wrote: > Actually, I thought it was a bit weird that I saw ChrisA's comment but > not the message he was commenting on until I went and looked for it. I > read this group on a couple of machines and it looks like Rick's > killfile entry had expired

Re: OT: Entitlements [was Re: Python usage numbers]

2012-02-15 Thread Duncan Booth
Arnaud Delobelle wrote: > On 15 February 2012 09:47, Duncan Booth > wrote: >> Rick Johnson wrote: > [...] > > Perhaps it's a bit presumptuous of me but... > > It's tempting to react to his inflammatory posts, but after all Rick > is a troll and experience shows that trolls are best left alon

Re: Python usage numbers

2012-02-15 Thread Anssi Saari
Matej Cepl writes: > Slightly less flameish answer to the question “What should I do, > really?” is a tough one: all these suggested answers are bad because > they don’t deal with the fact, that your input data are obviously > broken. The rest is just pure GIGO … Well, sure, but it happens that

Re: OT: Entitlements [was Re: Python usage numbers]

2012-02-15 Thread Arnaud Delobelle
On 15 February 2012 09:47, Duncan Booth wrote: > Rick Johnson wrote: [...] Perhaps it's a bit presumptuous of me but... It's tempting to react to his inflammatory posts, but after all Rick is a troll and experience shows that trolls are best left alone. Also, please spare a thought for all of u

Re: OT: Entitlements [was Re: Python usage numbers]

2012-02-15 Thread Duncan Booth
Rick Johnson wrote: > On Feb 14, 5:31 am, Duncan Booth wrote: >> Rick Johnson wrote: >> > BS! With free healthcare, those who would have allowed their immune >> > system fight off the flu, now take off from work, visit a local >> > clinic, and get pumped full of antibiotics so they can create a

Re: Python vs. C++11

2012-02-15 Thread Henrik Faber
On 15.02.2012 08:18, Tim Roberts wrote: > sturlamolden wrote: >> >> There are bigsimilarities between Python and the new C++ standard. Now >> we can actually use our experience as Python programmers to write >> fantastic C++ :-) > > This is more true than you might think. For quite a few years n

Re: OT: Entitlements [was Re: Python usage numbers]

2012-02-15 Thread John O'Hagan
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:26:36 -0800 (PST) Rick Johnson wrote: > On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, Chris Angelico wrote: > > But WE are the fittest! Because we are INTELLIGENT! And the whales say: But WE are the fittest! Because we are BIG! And the rabbits say: But WE are the fittest! Because we are FERTILE!