On 1/16/2021 9:17 PM, 2qdxy4rzwzuui...@potatochowder.com wrote:
A bare minimum skeleton might look something like this:
with open(filename) as f:
for line in f.readlines():
handle_one_line(f)
f.readlines() reads the entire file into a list of lines (strings). If
y
On 2021-01-16 at 17:46:13 -0500,
DonK wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 14:56:37 -0600, 2qdxy4rzwzuui...@potatochowder.com
> wrote:
>
> >On 2021-01-16 at 15:42:44 -0500,
> >DonK wrote:
> >> For example, I've found a need to parse text documents quite a number
> >> of times over the years. Basic/VB
On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 14:56:37 -0600, 2qdxy4rzwzuui...@potatochowder.com
wrote:
>On 2021-01-16 at 15:42:44 -0500,
>DonK wrote:
>
>> Yes, Windows. Iterating open windows with the Window's API is easy the
>> hard (very hard) part is sending keystrokes to those windows to Save
>> them. It's very trick
On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 10:16:47 +0400, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>Web with Python is really easy to get started with, here
>is a simple endpoint with a framework called Flask
>
>from flask import Flask
>app = Flask(__name__)
>
>@app.route('/')
>def hello_world():
> return 'Hell
On 2021-01-16 at 15:42:44 -0500,
DonK wrote:
> Yes, Windows. Iterating open windows with the Window's API is easy the
> hard (very hard) part is sending keystrokes to those windows to Save
> them. It's very tricky because the timing is critical.
>
> You have to use one of those "spy" utilities
On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 21:56:48 -0800, Paul Rubin
wrote:
>DonK writes:
>> My problem is that I don't understand how Python programs are
>> used. (i.e user input and output) Is Python mainly used for backends?
>> I've seen some Python gui frameworks like Tkinter, PyQt, etc
>
>I would say at leas
On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 09:26:18 +1100, Chris Angelico
wrote:
>On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 7:41 AM DonK wrote:
>> Hi, I'm thinking about learning Python but I'm 74 years old and will
>> very likely not ever have a programming job again. I used to program
>> in Visual Basic, C\C++, Delphi, etc. and some
On 14/01/21 11:49 am, Cameron Simpson wrote:
The "pure" OOP approach, where method calls are used as messages to set
or fetch aspects of the object, is usually does with getter and setter
methods like:
x = o.getX()
o.setX(9)
People use get and set methods, not because it's somehow mo
On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 21:46:08 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2021-01-13, Peter Pearson wrote:
[snip]
>> Browsergui is not widely popular (I don't think anybody but me has
>> mentioned it on this newsgroup), but it was written to be simple and
>> Pythonic, and has served me well. Browsergui
On 14/01/21 11:09 am, Grant Edwards wrote:
Perhaps I need to recalibrate my adjectives, but with
256KB+ of flash and 32KB+ of RAM, I wouldn't call them "small"
It's small by today's standards, when you consider that
multiple GB of RAM is commonplace now in most "real" computers.
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On 13/01/21 7:57 pm, Christian Gollwitzer wrote:
What do you mean, "until" ?
https://medium.com/@yon.goldschmidt/running-python-in-the-linux-kernel-7cbcbd44503c
He's using Micropython. That's cheating! :-)
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On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, dn via Python-list wrote:
Concerning the definition of "old"
- when I'm having a 'good day', it's anyone several years my senior (and
above)
- when I'm creaking and groaning, it's anyone remotely my age, and older.
About 45 years ago a 25-year-older friend of mine offered
On 2021-01-13, Peter Pearson wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 15:37:58 -0500, DonK
> wrote:
> [snip]
>>
>> I've seen some Python gui frameworks like Tkinter, PyQt, etc. but they
>> look kinda like adding a family room onto a 1986 double wide mobile
>> home,
>
> Agreed.
>
> Browsergui is not widely
On 2021-01-13, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 15:18:05 - (UTC), Grant Edwards
> declaimed the following:
>>On 2021-01-12, songbird wrote:
>>
>>> it can be used for pretty much anything except perhaps high
>>> pressure real time things, but i bet someone else will know that
>>>
On 14/01/2021 04.54, Grimble wrote:
> On 11/01/2021 20:37, DonK wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I'm thinking about learning Python but I'm 74 years old and will
>> very likely not ever have a programming job again.
> At 83, I have no intention of having a programming job again! I last
> coded something professi
On 13Jan2021 10:37, songbird wrote:
> my momentary conceptual problem is that to me OOP means
>being able to encapsulate data structures and code from
>other parts of the program, but to me it doesn't look like
>that is how python is designed. this is probably a complete
>aside to this whole thr
On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 15:37:58 -0500, DonK wrote:
[snip]
>
> I've seen some Python gui frameworks like Tkinter, PyQt, etc. but they
> look kinda like adding a family room onto a 1986 double wide mobile
> home,
Agreed.
Browsergui is not widely popular (I don't think anybody but me has
mentioned it
Christian Gollwitzer wrote:
> Am 13.01.21 um 06:24 schrieb Greg Ewing:
>> On 13/01/21 4:18 am, Grant Edwards wrote:
>>
>>> AFAIK, Python can't be used to write device drivers for any popular OS
>>
>> At least not until some crazy person embeds Python in the
>> Linux kernel...
>
>
> What do you
On 11/01/2021 20:37, DonK wrote:
Hi, I'm thinking about learning Python but I'm 74 years old and will
very likely not ever have a programming job again.
At 83, I have no intention of having a programming job again! I last
coded something professionally 45 years ago, but it hasn't lost its
att
Chris Angelico wrote:
...projects that fade...
> That's not really something Python can ever control, but I can say
> with some confidence that the big libraries like Qt and GTK are going
> to adapt, one way or another. And perhaps more importantly: Neither
> input()/print() nor web applications is
On 11/01/2021 20:37, DonK wrote:
So, what do you folks use Python for?
I've written a shopping list script with auto-completion and a couple of
web-scraping applications that support a weather reporting application
interfacing with various 1Wire sensors transcribed from an initial Ruby
ap
Am 13.01.21 um 06:24 schrieb Greg Ewing:
On 13/01/21 4:18 am, Grant Edwards wrote:
AFAIK, Python can't be used to write device drivers for any popular OS
At least not until some crazy person embeds Python in the
Linux kernel...
What do you mean, "until" ?
https://medium.com/@yon.goldschm
On 13/01/21 4:18 am, Grant Edwards wrote:
AFAIK, Python can't be used to write device drivers for any popular OS
At least not until some crazy person embeds Python in the
Linux kernel...
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On 2021-01-12, Chris Angelico wrote:
> * Command-line calculator - pressing Ctrl-Alt-P will open up a
> terminal with Python, and that's the normal way that I do quick
> calculations
I do that a lot too.
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On 12Jan2021 10:40, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
>On 11/01/2021 14.37, DonK wrote:
>>I've installed Python 3.7, the PyCharm IDE and watched some Youtube
>>tutorials
>
>I would suggest that instead of watching tutorials, you open up your IDE
>and start writing stuff.
I would second that. Maybe this i
On 12Jan2021 15:18, Grant Edwards wrote:
>On 2021-01-12, songbird wrote:
>> it can be used for pretty much anything except perhaps
>> high pressure real time things, but i bet someone else will
>> know that is being done too, i've just not heard of it. :)
>
>AFAIK, Python can't be used to writ
On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 7:41 AM DonK wrote:
> So, what do you folks use Python for?
>
Since everyone else is, I'll add my list.
* API lookups of various sorts (usually via HTTP requests)
* Audio analysis. Calculate the maximum and average volume of each of
many songs.
* Code generation. The audi
On 2021-01-12, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 3:18 AM Grant Edwards
> wrote:
>>
>> On 2021-01-12, songbird wrote:
>>
>> > it can be used for pretty much anything except perhaps
>> > high pressure real time things, but i bet someone else will
>> > know that is being done too,
On 12/01/2021 10.40, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
Modeling of electric power systems:
- load behavior in response to conservation load reduction
Sorry, that should have been "conservation voltage reduction".
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Psalm 82:1-4
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On 2021-01-11 20:37, DonK wrote:
[snip]
So, what do you folks use Python for?
Since we're sharing:
- Personal information manager in the form of a tree of pages. Each page
can have code associated with it which defines functions to call when
shortcut keys are pressed, giving page-specifi
On 11/01/2021 14.37, DonK wrote:
I've installed Python 3.7, the PyCharm IDE and watched some Youtube
tutorials
I would suggest that instead of watching tutorials, you open up your IDE
and start writing stuff. Get an introductory python book (I used the
O'Reilly _Introducing Python_), start at
On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 3:18 AM Grant Edwards wrote:
>
> On 2021-01-12, songbird wrote:
>
> > it can be used for pretty much anything except perhaps
> > high pressure real time things, but i bet someone else will
> > know that is being done too, i've just not heard of it. :)
>
> AFAIK, Python
On 2021-01-12, songbird wrote:
> it can be used for pretty much anything except perhaps
> high pressure real time things, but i bet someone else will
> know that is being done too, i've just not heard of it. :)
AFAIK, Python can't be used to write device drivers for any popular OS
(Linux, Uni
On 2021-01-11, DonK wrote:
> So, what do you folks use Python for?
I mainly use it for writing command-line utilities. Many of them work
on either Windows or Linux, but are mostly used on Linux:
* Two-pass symbolic assembler and dissassembler for a proprietary
communications controller.
*
On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 5:26 PM songbird wrote:
> for python i just spend too much time fumbling around
> and i don't really know what is current and if i'm using
> something that will be kept up for the future or if the
> project is going away or in a direction that i won't like
> (both KDE and
DonK wrote:
>
> Hi, I'm thinking about learning Python but I'm 74 years old and will
> very likely not ever have a programming job again. I used to program
> in Visual Basic, C\C++, Delphi, etc. and some obscure "mainframe"
> languages. It's been about 18-19 years since my last programming job.
> I
Greetings,
Web with Python is really easy to get started with, here
is a simple endpoint with a framework called Flask
from flask import Flask
app = Flask(__name__)
@app.route('/')
def hello_world():
return 'Hello World’
if __name__ == '__main__':
app.run()
As for Tkinter, it's really an
On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 3:16 PM Greg Ewing wrote:
> > Currently I'd like to write something to iterate
> > through open windows and save them to different folders depending on
> > if the titlebar contains certain strings.
>
> That sounds like it should be doable if you can get access to the
> righ
On 12/01/21 9:37 am, DonK wrote:
I've seen some Python gui frameworks like Tkinter, PyQt, etc. but they
look kinda like adding a family room onto a 1986 double wide mobile
home, and they look even more complicated than creating a GUI from
scratch in C++ with a message loop, raising events . . .
On 11Jan2021 15:52, Dan Stromberg wrote:
>On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 2:22 PM Cameron Simpson wrote:
>> >I've seen some Python gui frameworks like Tkinter, PyQt, etc. but
>> >they
>> >look kinda like adding a family room onto a 1986 double wide mobile
>> >home, and they look even more complicated th
On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 2:22 PM Cameron Simpson wrote:
> >I've seen some Python gui frameworks like Tkinter, PyQt, etc. but they
> >look kinda like adding a family room onto a 1986 double wide mobile
> >home, and they look even more complicated than creating a GUI from
> >scratch in C++ with a me
On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 7:41 AM DonK wrote:
> Hi, I'm thinking about learning Python but I'm 74 years old and will
> very likely not ever have a programming job again. I used to program
> in Visual Basic, C\C++, Delphi, etc. and some obscure "mainframe"
> languages.
BTW, from my experience, there
On 11Jan2021 15:37, DonK wrote:
>Hi, I'm thinking about learning Python but I'm 74 years old and will
>very likely not ever have a programming job again. I used to program
>in Visual Basic, C\C++, Delphi, etc. and some obscure "mainframe"
>languages.
Therefore you're happy with classes, and are p
On 12/01/2021 09.37, DonK wrote:
>
> Hi, I'm thinking about learning Python but I'm 74 years old and will
> very likely not ever have a programming job again. I used to program
> in Visual Basic, C\C++, Delphi, etc. and some obscure "mainframe"
> languages. It's been about 18-19 years since my las
On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 7:41 AM DonK wrote:
>
>
> Hi, I'm thinking about learning Python but I'm 74 years old and will
> very likely not ever have a programming job again. I used to program
> in Visual Basic, C\C++, Delphi, etc. and some obscure "mainframe"
> languages. It's been about 18-19 years
Hi, I'm thinking about learning Python but I'm 74 years old and will
very likely not ever have a programming job again. I used to program
in Visual Basic, C\C++, Delphi, etc. and some obscure "mainframe"
languages. It's been about 18-19 years since my last programming job.
I do understand program
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