Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-10-06 Thread Josef Pktd
On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 11:27:58 PM UTC-4, Ian wrote: > On Oct 5, 2015 4:27 PM, "Ben Finney" wrote: > > > > > > Josef Pktd writes: > > > > > > > related > > > > > > Care to give us a summary of what that is, and describe what you think > > > is the relevant point? > > Following the

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-10-05 Thread Ian Kelly
On Oct 5, 2015 4:27 PM, "Ben Finney" wrote: > > Josef Pktd writes: > > > related > > Care to give us a summary of what that is, and describe what you think > is the relevant point? Following the link reveals it to be the video of a talk on Python exe compilation from PyCon 2014. If you're worri

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-10-05 Thread Ben Finney
Josef Pktd writes: > related Care to give us a summary of what that is, and describe what you think is the relevant point? -- \ “The best way to get information on Usenet is not to ask a | `\ question, but to post the wrong information.” —Aahz | _o__)

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-10-05 Thread sohcahtoa82
On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 10:55:19 PM UTC-7, Jondy Zhao wrote: > On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 11:06:25 AM UTC+8, Ben Finney wrote: > > Jondy Zhao writes: > > > > > For example, I develop a game by python. What I want to do is that the > > > player or the agent could not simply copy t

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-10-05 Thread Josef Pktd
related https://youtu.be/wsczq6j3_bA?t=20m9s Josef -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-18 Thread Jondy Zhao
On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 9:08:27 PM UTC+8, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: > On 18/09/2015 13:41, Jondy Zhao wrote: > [...] > > In reality, when we leave the house, we lock the door, even the lock could > > not make sure the safe of our property. It's just make it difficult. > > It's same in the soft

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-18 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
On 18/09/2015 13:41, Jondy Zhao wrote: [...] In reality, when we leave the house, we lock the door, even the lock could not make sure the safe of our property. It's just make it difficult. It's same in the software world. Someone need the lock in both of the world. I think you meant "in the *pr

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-18 Thread Ben Finney
Jondy Zhao writes: > In reality, when we leave the house, we lock the door, even the lock > could not make sure the safe of our property. It's just make it > difficult. It's same in the software world. Someone need the lock in > both of the world. Yes, please don't encourage authors to put locks

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-18 Thread Jondy Zhao
On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 6:06:51 PM UTC+8, alister wrote: > On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 01:31:50 -0700, Jondy Zhao wrote: > > > On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 4:08:57 PM UTC+8, alister wrote: > >> On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 22:38:32 -0700, Jondy Zhao wrote: > >> > >> > On Friday, September 18, 2015 at

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-18 Thread alister
On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 01:31:50 -0700, Jondy Zhao wrote: > On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 4:08:57 PM UTC+8, alister wrote: >> On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 22:38:32 -0700, Jondy Zhao wrote: >> >> > On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 1:02:09 PM UTC+8, Chris Angelico >> > wrote: >> >> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-18 Thread Jondy Zhao
On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 4:08:57 PM UTC+8, alister wrote: > On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 22:38:32 -0700, Jondy Zhao wrote: > > > On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 1:02:09 PM UTC+8, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Jondy Zhao > >> wrote: > >> > The loader only can see the

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Jondy Zhao wrote: > I know you hate it. But I have purchased some commercial software in this way > before, a tool named ERWIN used to create relation database. The license I > got from software provider is bind to the network card of my PC. I can't use > this t

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-18 Thread alister
On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 22:38:32 -0700, Jondy Zhao wrote: > On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 1:02:09 PM UTC+8, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Jondy Zhao >> wrote: >> > The loader only can see the compiled scripts as ast nodes, even if >> > the load some tools could dump th

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-18 Thread Jondy Zhao
On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 3:27:28 PM UTC+8, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Jondy Zhao wrote: > > On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 11:06:25 AM UTC+8, Ben Finney wrote: > >> Jondy Zhao writes: > >> > >> > For example, I develop a game by python. What I want to do is

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-18 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Jondy Zhao wrote: > On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 11:06:25 AM UTC+8, Ben Finney wrote: >> Jondy Zhao writes: >> >> > For example, I develop a game by python. What I want to do is that the >> > player or the agent could not simply copy the game to others. For th

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-17 Thread Jondy Zhao
On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 11:06:25 AM UTC+8, Ben Finney wrote: > Jondy Zhao writes: > > > For example, I develop a game by python. What I want to do is that the > > player or the agent could not simply copy the game to others. For the > > player or the agent, they needn't research the game

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-17 Thread Jondy Zhao
On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 1:02:09 PM UTC+8, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Jondy Zhao wrote: > > The loader only can see the compiled scripts as ast nodes, even if the load > > some tools could dump the separated ast node to bytecode and de-compile it, > > think

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Jondy Zhao wrote: > The loader only can see the compiled scripts as ast nodes, even if the load > some tools could dump the separated ast node to bytecode and de-compile it, > think of one script is divided into thousands of pieces, it's not easy to > assemble

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-17 Thread Ben Finney
Jondy Zhao writes: > For example, I develop a game by python. What I want to do is that the > player or the agent could not simply copy the game to others. For the > player or the agent, they needn't research the game. Deciding for the customer what they may not do, on their own computer, is qui

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-17 Thread Jondy Zhao
On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 10:27:35 AM UTC+8, Ben Finney wrote: > Jondy Zhao writes: > > > Think that python developer is manufacturer, and he want to sell his > > product to the customers who don't know anything about programming. > > Are you also assuming those customers have no-one they

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-17 Thread Jondy Zhao
On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 10:06:30 AM UTC+8, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Jondy Zhao wrote: > > Think that python developer is manufacturer, and he want to sell his > > product to the customers who don't know anything about programming. He > > don't hope his c

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-17 Thread Jondy Zhao
On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 5:49:15 PM UTC+8, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Jondy Zhao wrote: > > Pyarmor is dedicated to users who create their applications, components, > > scripts or any file with the help of the Python programming language. You > > may use th

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-17 Thread Ben Finney
Jondy Zhao writes: > Think that python developer is manufacturer, and he want to sell his > product to the customers who don't know anything about programming. Are you also assuming those customers have no-one they can talk with who knows programming? > He don't hope his customers redistribute

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Jondy Zhao wrote: > Think that python developer is manufacturer, and he want to sell his product > to the customers who don't know anything about programming. He don't hope his > customers redistribute his product, that's protected by Pyarmor. > The trouble wit

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-17 Thread Jondy Zhao
On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 5:36:52 PM UTC+8, Ben Finney wrote: > Jondy Zhao writes: > > > Pyarmor is a simple to use tool which is capable of importing or > > running encrypted Python script files. Moreover, it can apply encoding > > algorithms to your Python scripts, in order to help you

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-15 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 2:40 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2015-09-15, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >>> I you may be underestimating the laziness and overestimating the >>> cleverness of most people. ;) >> >> Heh :) But in that case, you can probably get away with just >> zipimport. Deflation sure is

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-09-15, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> I you may be underestimating the laziness and overestimating the >> cleverness of most people. ;) > > Heh :) But in that case, you can probably get away with just > zipimport. Deflation sure isn't encryption, but the code is pretty > thoroughly concealed a

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-09-15, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Grant Edwards > wrote: >> On 2015-09-15, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Jondy Zhao wrote: Pyarmor is dedicated to users who create their applications, components, scripts or any file

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-15 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 2:20 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2015-09-15, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Grant Edwards >> wrote: >>> On 2015-09-15, Chris Angelico wrote: If they can be run as if no protection had been applied, that presumably means the loader

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-15 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2015-09-15, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Jondy Zhao wrote: >>> Pyarmor is dedicated to users who create their applications, components, >>> scripts or any file with the help of the Python programming langua

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-09-15, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Jondy Zhao wrote: >> Pyarmor is dedicated to users who create their applications, components, >> scripts or any file with the help of the Python programming language. You >> may use this application to encrypt the files, in

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-15 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Jondy Zhao wrote: > Pyarmor is dedicated to users who create their applications, components, > scripts or any file with the help of the Python programming language. You may > use this application to encrypt the files, in order to protect their content > and your

Re: Pyarmor, guard your python scripts

2015-09-15 Thread Ben Finney
Jondy Zhao writes: > Pyarmor is a simple to use tool which is capable of importing or > running encrypted Python script files. Moreover, it can apply encoding > algorithms to your Python scripts, in order to help you protect them > before you can distribute them. You may also generate license fil