Re: [R-sig-phylo] PICs: Why force linear regressions through the origin?

2009-05-08 Thread Gernot Huber
Thanks everyone, for your prompt answers to such an elementary question. I finally got my head wrapped around this by making a table with dummy data, creating contrasts by hand, and plotting both the raw data and the contrasts. It all makes sense now. :) Gernot On May 8, 2009, at 12:23 P

Re: [R-sig-phylo] PICs: Why force linear regressions through the origin?

2009-05-08 Thread tgarland
This is also covered in the following paper (and others): Garland, T., Jr., P. H. Harvey, and A. R. Ives. 1992. Procedures for the analysis of comparative data using phylogenetically independent contrasts. Systematic Biology 41:18-32. Available here: http://www.biology.ucr.edu/people/fa

Re: [R-sig-phylo] PICs: Why force linear regressions through the origin?

2009-05-08 Thread Joe Felsenstein
Gernot Huber asked -- > 1. Why do you have to force a linear regression through the origin > when using phylogenetically independent contrasts (PICs)? Because their expectations are zero. A contrast could be either X1 - X2 or X2 - X1, for one thing. The expectations of X1 and X2 are identica

[R-sig-phylo] PICs: Why force linear regressions through the origin?

2009-05-08 Thread Gernot Huber
Hi, I haven't been able to find answers to the following questions: 1. Why do you have to force a linear regression through the origin when using phylogenetically independent contrasts (PICs)? 2. If you suspect an inverse linear relationship, would you transform one axis so you could still