[RBW] Re: WTT New Barlow Pass for New Jack Brown Green

2015-08-21 Thread David Person
I've had better luck calling them than e-mail. My Barlow Pass EL's measure 37mm mounted on their Grand Bois rims. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an em

Re: [RBW] Re: WTT New Barlow Pass for New Jack Brown Green

2015-08-21 Thread Patrick Moore
Remove the post: no, of course not. But I just wanted all to be clear about what he said; and if he used the word "degrade," then that's fine too as long as his meaning is clear. IIRC, Jan's limit was about 26.5", so that 50 mm 559s, 42 mm 584s, and sub-35 mm 622s would fit the bill. Yes, the Jone

[RBW] Re: WTT New Barlow Pass for New Jack Brown Green

2015-08-21 Thread Lungimsam
I don't remember what he attributes it too. I just remember him writing on the blog that, for 700c bikes, he felt that handling gets worse when the tire with exceeds 35mm, while 650b bikes keep their nimble handling with tires wider than that. I am pretty sure he used the term "degrades", but

Re: [RBW] Re: WTT New Barlow Pass for New Jack Brown Green

2015-08-21 Thread Patrick Moore
I think that what BQ/Compass in fact claims is that the gyroscopic factors determined by tire diameter and width and of course weight at the given distance from the axle result in the best handling when the perimeter of the wheel is about 13.5" from the axle. They don't to my knowledge use the word

Re: [RBW] Re: WTT New Barlow Pass for New Jack Brown Green

2015-08-21 Thread Patrick Moore
I think Customer Service was riding P-B-P. On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Bill Ruprecht wrote: > mine have only been mounted for a week and only ridden once. I hope to > put some miles on em this w/e and see if they "em-puffen" some. What > disappoints me most is that on the Compass website t

[RBW] Re: WTT New Barlow Pass for New Jack Brown Green

2015-08-21 Thread Lungimsam
1. Compass/Bicycle Quarterly articles/blog state that tires will get an mm or two wider with use/time, iirc. 2. They state that rim width plays a role in how wide the tire will empuffen, 3. They also state that handling on 700c bikes degrades with any tire wider than 35mm. They believe running

[RBW] Re: WTT New Barlow Pass for New Jack Brown Green

2015-08-21 Thread Bill Ruprecht
mine have only been mounted for a week and only ridden once. I hope to put some miles on em this w/e and see if they "em-puffen" some. What disappoints me most is that on the Compass website they clearly state that the tires are "actual" size and not just "stated". I've written to the Customer

Re: [RBW] Re: WTT New Barlow Pass for New Jack Brown Green

2015-08-21 Thread Patrick Moore
Do the Compass Extra Legers usually expand with use? I wonder if the new Elk Passes will expand by 5 mm or so. Half of me wants them to empuffen (great verb) to the full 32 mm; t'other half likes them just as they are, ~27.5 mm on quite narrow (13 mm inside) semi-aero rims. For me, 28 mm is an ide

[RBW] Re: WTT New Barlow Pass for New Jack Brown Green

2015-08-21 Thread Kieran J
How long have you had the Barlows mounted? They may need more em-puffening time. I have both them and the Jack Brown Greens on similar width rims and the Compasses are certainly wider. KJ On Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 11:50:46 PM UTC-4, Bill Ruprecht wrote: > > Hi, > It's too bad i didn't w

[RBW] Re: WTT New Barlow Pass for New Jack Brown Green

2015-08-20 Thread tdusky
Bicycle classics sells them for $50, See homepage lower right— Jack Brown 700 x 33 (Green) tires for 50.00 each, http://www.bicycleclassics.com/ I am interested in your tires if you want to sell them. Tom Dusky On Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 5:24:49 PM UTC-4, john wrote: > > Hi all. I have new

[RBW] Re: WTT New Barlow Pass for New Jack Brown Green

2015-08-20 Thread Bill Ruprecht
Hi, It's too bad i didn't wait to buy my Barlow Pass EL until this week as i would have bought yours. After reading all the hype, I was disappointed to find that these are the exact width as the Jack Browns that I was currently using. I wanted something just a little bit cushier with the extra 5