Chris AND Tom
Thanks for reminding us all what it's like to be on both sides. I've
been in a car more than I'd like lately, and shudder when I recognize how
much our view of the world changes when we're looking through a windshield.
I'm committing to be a more visual driver and a more visible
Chris: Bummer! Here's wishing you a full and fast recovery. (Glad your
humor is intact.)
Tom: Thanks for sharing your story. I, for one, resolve to be more mindful
on the roads because of what you wrote.
Evan E.
SF, CA
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Shit, Chris. I'm so glad you're OK. What a scary thing to have happen.
On Saturday, September 6, 2014 8:01:26 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:
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> *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Patrick Moore
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> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Well, Damn
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Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Well, Damn
One has to exercise reasonable care and the bar for this is quite high when we
drive a 2 ton vehicle at speeds far above what is normally human.
That said, we live in an imperfect world and no one, I repeat no one, can
expect to be fully alert
skittish, both as a driver and a cyclist, but I’m trying hard to keep
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control what I do.
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> *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris Chen
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 07, 2014 5:54 PM
> *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Och, Tom! I am so sorry you are experiencing the guilt of what happened.
Perhaps it's ignorance on my part, but I have a hard time picturing anyone
on this group being an unconscientious driver.
Granted I do not ride in very populated areas, so the volume of traffic I
have to contend with and t
Tom, my friend.
I'm really sorry for the pain and guilt you must be feeling. I'll try to
help you make something good come out of your experience by promising that
I will recommit myself to being as careful as I can be when I'm behind the
wheel. Thank you very much for sharing it.
Bill
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Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Well, Damn
Thanks everyone for the kind words. It's a bit sad we live in an adversarial
sort of culture, because it's really easy to see this incident from both sides.
That said, I *was* going straight and the car entered my space, so...
In any event, I
Dang, that mighty Homer is used up. R.I.P. Homer. Bummer. :-(
I'd rather see a hundred crumpled Homers than a single broken bone on you,
CC. I'm super grateful for that. There's a sign on the display
Hunqapillar at Bike Book and Hatchet that reads. "This is a Bicycle.
Bicycles have no so
> Thanks everyone for the kind words. It's a bit sad we live in an
adversarial sort of culture, because it's really easy to see this incident
from both sides. That said, > *was* going straight and the car entered my
space, so...
Don't even let yourself feel even a bit at fault.
Left turning a
Given the look of that impact, check the front hub carefully before using
it to rebuild a wheel...you may need a new Schmidt.
On Sunday, September 7, 2014 6:00:27 PM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote:
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> I'll be riding the chicken once my new helmet ge
Oh my god Jinxed that makes me want to cry.
I'll be riding the chicken once my new helmet gets here, so I'm good. But
THANK YOU!
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 2:56 PM, 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> VERY glad to hear you are doing as well. If you need my 57
VERY glad to hear you are doing as well. If you need my 57 Hilsen frame and
or fork on free loan till your's is sorted, let me know. I'll could have it
in transit tomorrow or tuesday. Keep up the mending.
On Sunday, September 7, 2014 3:53:57 PM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote:
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> Thanks everyone
Thanks everyone for the kind words. It's a bit sad we live in an
adversarial sort of culture, because it's really easy to see this incident
from both sides. That said, I *was* going straight and the car entered my
space, so...
In any event, I'm going to spend a few minutes today to take parts off
We are the place for good advice on this sort of thing! I especially agree
with the two "Patricks".
Our legal/medical/insurance system is built on short-term adversarial
relationships, but this kind of accident can be long-term life changing,
especially if you feel like jumping up after being hit
People just can't wait 3 seconds for a bike to get through an
intersection.I hope you recover quickly.
Inspect your bike for hidden damage:
Feel under the down tube and top tube just behind the head tube for any
bulges that may have ben caused by the impact. Have the bike shop remove
the fork a
Glad you are OK...but take care of yourself as Patrick Moore advises, (and
I suspect he well knows what he's talking about!) and make sure you file a
claim for whatever you're legally entitled to.
I wish you a speedy recovery...evidently you still have your sense of
humour which is a good thin
After my left hook in Jan 2013 (on NW Evergreen just after it splits off from
NW Cornell, by the Verizon store), I also got left-hooked by his insurance.
Fortunately *I* have good insurance. After going into work and getting yelled
at by everyone, I spent the day in the ER. The first doctor d
Yikes! Glad to hear that you escaped relatively intact.
Patrick M. gives great, salient advice.
You will probably discover more aches and pains (document!) as your body
relaxes over the next few days. Definitely get ahold of your auto
insurance co if you have any. One of the reasons I'll pro
It was an unpleasant surprise to see you at work yesterday. I'm glad you're
well. I meant to pop back in and see you but I was quite busy on the other
side of the ER. Hope you heal quickly. Also hope Homer is back on the road
soon. You certainly seemed to fair better than my last friend who came
Well, damn indeed. I'm glad you're okay, Chris.
Based on previous experience, definitely take the insurance route. Riv may
be able to give you an estimate for repairs.
Wishing you a speedy recovery,
-E.
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Och! Chris! Prayers for a rapid and full recovery. Since it is my unwitting
area of expertise, here is the brain injury stuff that hopefully will not
apply, but likely does to some extend due to the rapid deceleration you,
and the brain in your skull, experienced.
Any idea how fast the car was
there's no milk in horchata - at least there's not supposed to be
http://noshon.it/blog/2013/07/how-to-make-authentic-mexican-horchata/
Christopher, wishing you healing and safety. Same for your bike...
On Saturday, September 6, 2014 11:04:51 PM UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote:
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Christopher, glad you are feeling OK, due be cautious about your recovery.
This all reminds me why I wear a helmet. The one kind of fall they are
most helpful in is a collision. You may get a concussion but chance of a
skull fracture go way down.
I hope neither the driver nor insurance compa
Glad you're OK and in good wit about the crash. 2° what Patrick said, they
take the rates to cover losses.
Each time I've been hit, the driver seemed more deeply impacted than me
when all was said and done (by sheer grace, and deeper into a line of
credit with Karma). Sort of my own program of
Oh, geez.
Glad you're mostly intact, so sorry for your bike!
What others have said. Photograph *everything.* If you have bruises that
emerge over time, take photos every day to show the progress. And be very
careful, injuries can appear after a while, so go slow, but check
everything out.
Dude - that is practically right out of your home. Good thing it wasn't the
Chicken. You would probably be the one doing the damageLOL.
Really, glad it wasn't any worse. Hope you recover quickly
Dennis in PDX
On Saturday, September 6, 2014 8:01:26 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:
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Bah.
On the plus side horchata milkshakes do have special healing properties.
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At least you got a milkshake out of it!
Take it easy and recover wholly!
Cheers,
David
"it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 8:40 PM, lungimsam wrote:
> I hate when people on bikes get hit by cars, because it
>> just...doesn't...have...to happen in
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> I hate when people on bikes get hit by cars, because it
> just...doesn't...have...to happen in the first place, when you think about
> it. Of course, I guess that's the same for an auto hitting an auto, too.
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I am glad you are ok and hope the bike can be fixed and that you will not
need f
Oh yeah pics prove a windshield is actually a pretty good energy absorption
device:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157646898586679/
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Chris Chen wrote:
> My Hilsen is out of commission for a little while.
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> Heading on NW Broadway towards the bri
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