Re: [RE-wrenches] Discover AES Wall Mount Considerations

2022-09-06 Thread Chris Schaefer via RE-wrenches
Michael, Any pictures of that bracing system pre battery mount would be greatly appreciated. Christopher On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 3:21 PM Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > We hang a lot of AES on wooden stud walls. Our engineer prescribed the >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Discover AES Wall Mount Considerations

2022-09-06 Thread Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches
We hang a lot of AES on wooden stud walls. Our engineer prescribed the following: 1-5/8" strut bolted to every stud in the span. AES factory mounting brackets bolted with 3/8" grade 8 bolts and thick strut cone nuts. Then a support brace 3-1/4" strut which is (2) welded back to back 1-5/8" struts

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2022-09-06 Thread Marco Mangelsdorf via RE-wrenches
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Discover AES Wall Mount Considerations

2022-09-06 Thread Ray Walters via RE-wrenches
I agree with James here.  I will relate a "funny" story about a neighbor mounting a large Elk antler rack on his wall with lags. Worked fine, till one night they heard a big crash, and the antlers had pulled the wall stud right out of the wall into the living room. The 2x 4 came right out of 

Re: [RE-wrenches] Discover AES Wall Mount Considerations

2022-09-06 Thread pieter offgridenterprises.org via RE-wrenches
Having witnessed the aftermath of others who have installed batteries by bolting brackets to wood stud walls, my advice is do not do it! You reinforce the structure prior to mounting the batteries but failing to do could result in a catastrophic failure. When in doubt consult with your friendly

Re: [RE-wrenches] Discover AES Wall Mount Considerations

2022-09-06 Thread James Jarvis via RE-wrenches
Buckling of the wall studs is most likely going to be the failure mode. You can use WebStructural to look at different designs. You'll find that accurately defining the constraints on the structural members is the most troublesome. https://webstructural.com/ Personally, I don't think that

Re: [RE-wrenches] Discover AES Wall Mount Considerations

2022-09-06 Thread Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches
2x4 studs have compressive force to hold up over 1,000 pounds each when constructing a load bearing wall, so I don't think that is a limiting factor. But I am not a structural engineer, so consulting one would not be a bad idea. Jason On Tue, Sep 6, 2022, 10:21 AM Chris Sparadeo wrote: >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Discover AES Wall Mount Considerations

2022-09-06 Thread Chris Sparadeo via RE-wrenches
Thanks Jason, I’m still wondering if there is an IBC reference for weight. The Discover manual only states: “ For structural and seismic stability, the AES Battery must be mounted onto a vertical supporting surface strong enough to support a minimum of 227 kg (500 lbs) per battery. Failure to

Re: [RE-wrenches] Discover AES Wall Mount Considerations

2022-09-06 Thread Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches
That won't be a problem as long as they are spread across several studs. Even 2x4 studs would be fine. Check the installation manual for details. The shear and pull out strength of the fasteners will be the limiting factor, not the wall itself unless very poorly constructed.

[RE-wrenches] Discover AES Wall Mount Considerations

2022-09-06 Thread Chris Sparadeo via RE-wrenches
Hi all, I have a project where I am contemplating hanging 9 Discover AES batteries on a wall. Each battery is around 200 lbs, and although the stud wall is a bulky 2”x6” with 16” OC…I have apprehensions that hanging almost a ton of battery on the wall is a good idea. I’ve seen it done in other