Re: [RE-wrenches] GTBB resistance

2013-12-09 Thread Bruce Erickson
-mail From: Dan Fink danbo...@gmail.com To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Date: 10/10/2013 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] GTBB resistance Sent by: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org Ray; We always run a variety of made-up financial

Re: [RE-wrenches] GTBB resistance

2013-10-18 Thread Phil Undercuffler
:22 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] GTBB resistance Sent by: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org -- Ray; We always run a variety of made-up financial scenarios in our Intro to Off-Grid classes.we usually end up around 35 to 70 cents per kWh. Or another

Re: [RE-wrenches] GTBB resistance

2013-10-10 Thread Phil Undercuffler
I've been watching this thread and was uncertain whether to chime in, but this affects multiple installers and businesses including other inverter manufacturers, so I'm going to put my industry hat on and wade in, in support of GTBB as a class. This fight has been active since April - May, after

Re: [RE-wrenches] GTBB resistance

2013-10-10 Thread Ray Walters
Just to add to Phil's comments: I've been calculating total life cost of battery storage (KWH x cycle life x %DOD) and the costs are 15 to 35 cents/ KWH to cycle a battery. Its even higher for sealed batteries and Li+. It would have to be an amazing cost difference in the TOU rates to

Re: [RE-wrenches] GTBB resistance

2013-10-10 Thread Dan Fink
Ray; We always run a variety of made-up financial scenarios in our Intro to Off-Grid classes.we usually end up around 35 to 70 cents per kWh. Or another way to put ita monthly 'battery bill' of $25 to $120 depending on battery bank size, and how many years they pamper it to lastor

Re: [RE-wrenches] GTBB resistance

2013-10-10 Thread Eric . Bentsen
-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Date: 10/10/2013 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] GTBB resistance Sent by: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org Ray; We always run a variety of made-up financial scenarios in our Intro to Off-Grid classes.we usually end up around 35 to 70 cents

[RE-wrenches] GTBB resistance

2013-10-09 Thread William Miller
Friends: I have been informed of another article on this subject: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-07/battery-stored-solar-power-sparks-b acklash-from-utilities.html The subject came up on this forum recently and most of us said or thought, how stupid, there is no good reason to ever

Re: [RE-wrenches] GTBB resistance

2013-10-09 Thread jay peltz
Hi William I have been giving this some though. As we know it makes no sense, now. What don't we know about electric prices in the near future that might make this cost effective? Jay Peltz pow On Oct 9, 2013, at 12:03 PM, William Miller will...@millersolar.com wrote: Friends: