Re: [recoznet2] The Age: Reflections on a referendum

1999-01-02 Thread Rod Hagen
At 04:31 PM 5/11/99, Peter McGrath wrote: >Hi Trudy >Doesn't all this remind you of a magicians sleight of hand. The >name of the game appears to be misdirection. I am wondering what we are >going to find out about after all this furor is over. > >What did get pushed through parliament whi

Re: [recoznet2] The Age: Reflections on a referendum

1999-01-02 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
tdunlop wrote: > >> > >> Ah, but the net effect is that the Queen (and Howard and her other > >> supporters) win. Really can't see them letting go of their victory > lightly > >> (or quickly). > > > >Wasn't it the 'yes' side who discounted 'in effect' when Howard used it? > Can't have it both

Re: [recoznet2] The Age: Reflections on a referendum

1999-01-02 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Peter McGrath wrote: > Hi Trudy > Doesn't all this remind you of a magicians sleight of hand. The name of the game >appears to be misdirection. I am wondering what we are going to find out about after >all this furor is over. I think we'll be in for a few surprises. I have visions of the shi

Re: [recoznet2] The Age: Reflections on a referendum

1999-01-02 Thread tdunlop
>> >> Ah, but the net effect is that the Queen (and Howard and her other >> supporters) win. Really can't see them letting go of their victory lightly >> (or quickly). > >Wasn't it the 'yes' side who discounted 'in effect' when Howard used it? Can't have it both ways... > >> (Sorry, couldn't hel

Re: [recoznet2] The Age: Reflections on a referendum

1999-01-02 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
tdunlop wrote: > Maybe enough of all those > >> republicans out there will find it just too hard to vote for the Queen > once > >> they're in the booth? We'll see I guess > > > >If that was the problem then the result would be different. Most are not > voting 'for' the Queen but against >

Re: [recoznet2] The Age: Reflections on a referendum

1999-01-02 Thread tdunlop
Maybe enough of all those >> republicans out there will find it just too hard to vote for the Queen once >> they're in the booth? We'll see I guess > >If that was the problem then the result would be different. Most are not voting 'for' the Queen but against >the model... > >Trudy Ah, but

Re: [recoznet2] The Age: Reflections on a referendum

1999-01-02 Thread Peter McGrath
Hi Trudy Doesn't all this remind you of a magicians sleight of hand. The name of the game appears to be misdirection. I am wondering what we are going to find out about after all this furor is over. What did get pushed through parliament while we looked elsewhere? At 03:24 PM 11/5/99 +1100, you

Re: [recoznet2] The Age: Reflections on a referendum

1999-01-02 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
tdunlop wrote: > >No, I'm afraid not. > > Ah, well. I guess we can have all the arguments again at the next > referendum - if I'm not too arthritic to type by then ;-) Well, it's not stopping me, so you have nothing to worry about. ;-) > >Did you happen to see Lateline either last night or t

[recoznet2] Fw: [atsic] Media Release: Seize the Time - says respected Aboriginal Rights activist Terry O'Shane

1999-01-02 Thread tdunlop
Thought this might be of interest to people. >Seize the Time - says respected Aboriginal Rights activist Terry O'Shane > >On the eve of the referendum, Terry O'Shane, one of the most senior and >respected activists for Aboriginal and human rights for more than

Re: [recoznet2] The Age: Reflections on a referendum

1999-01-02 Thread tdunlop
>No, I'm afraid not. Ah, well. I guess we can have all the arguments again at the next referendum - if I'm not too arthritic to type by then ;-) > >Did you happen to see Lateline either last night or today? It was a very good discussion and brought up many >points as to why even though 91% (in

Re: [recoznet2] The Age: Reflections on a referendum

1999-01-02 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
No, I'm afraid not. Did you happen to see Lateline either last night or today? It was a very good discussion and brought up many points as to why even though 91% (in the latest poll) expressed a wish for a republic, this model isn't likely to make it tomorrow. The Gandhi quote was not about a

Re: [recoznet2] The Age: Reflections on a referendum

1999-01-02 Thread tdunlop
Sorry, Trudy - just presumed because it was with the article. BTW Any chance of a last-minute conversion? Only one more sleep to go! Tim >It wasn't Rob Sitch but me;-) > >Trudy > >tdunlop wrote: > >> Interesting that Rob Sitch quotes Ghandi in the article below, India being >>

Re: [recoznet2] The Age: Reflections on a referendum

1999-01-02 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
It wasn't Rob Sitch but me;-) Trudy tdunlop wrote: > Interesting that Rob Sitch quotes Ghandi in the article below, India being > one of the countries that appoints rather than directly elects its > Presidents. > > Tim > === > >"There go my people, I am their leader - I must fol

Re: [recoznet2] The Age: Reflections on a referendum

1999-01-02 Thread tdunlop
Interesting that Rob Sitch quotes Ghandi in the article below, India being one of the countries that appoints rather than directly elects its Presidents. Tim === >"There go my people, I am their leader - I must follow." -- Mahatma >Gandhi > >THE AGE >Reflections on a referendum > ROB

[recoznet2] The Age: Reflections on a referendum

1999-01-02 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
"There go my people, I am their leader - I must follow." -- Mahatma Gandhi THE AGE Reflections on a referendum ROB SITCH Friday 5 November 1999 IT'S CLEAR from the opinion polls that Australia is overwhelmingly republican. It's not surprising then that attention has turned to the model. The

[recoznet2] Fw: [atsic] Media Release: Aboriginal Arts and Crafts Centres - their story told in new report

1999-01-02 Thread Liam
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