Re: Sustainable computing - Re: CentOS EOL - politics?

2020-12-17 Thread Brett Viren
Hi, ~Stack~ writes: > I'm curious about your thoughts on what it means to have that > sustainable footing going forward. A little bit pontificating but here is my take: "sustainable computing" must be "community all the way down". We must reject attempts by flighty (or other) corporations to

Re: Sustainable computing - Re: CentOS EOL - politics?

2020-12-12 Thread Yasha Karant
I am familiar with Kubernetes that initiated though Google engineering staff as I recall. For those who are quite unfamiliar with Kubernetes, a brief overview with references is

Sustainable computing - Re: CentOS EOL - politics?

2020-12-12 Thread ~Stack~
On 12/11/20 10:09 AM, Brett Viren wrote: My hope is they (we) take this current situation as a lesson and make a radical change that puts all of our computing on more sustainable footing as we go into the next decades. I'm curious about your thoughts on what it means to have that sustainable

Re: CentOS EOL - politics?

2020-12-11 Thread Yasha Karant
I agree with your analysis, save for three comments. Mine also is not a political comment, merely an analysis of fact. Overwhelmingly throughout the world, HEP is funded by public funds (sometimes from totalitarian dictatorships if one can call such "public"). HEP addresses basic science,

Re: CentOS EOL - politics?

2020-12-11 Thread Brett Viren
This is not a political reply. Keith Lofstrom writes: > The big physics labs that supported Scientific Linux get > much or all of their funding from the US government, CERN is primarily funded by CERN nation states, of which US is not one. FNAL, being a US DOE National Lab, is primarily