Re: [Soekris] CompactFlash cards and Soekris boards

2008-10-10 Thread Bill Maas
Hi Richard, I was talking about write speeds, not about CF card lifespan. And yes, of course it also depends on what people are going to push into the DB. I wouldn't set up a CVS server on a CF card myself, just because in general those cards are still quite slow, the affordable ones at least. Bi

Re: [Soekris] CompactFlash cards and Soekris boards

2008-10-10 Thread Bill Maas
Hi Oleg, On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 10:10 -0700, Oleg Smolsky wrote: > Bill Maas wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 16:15 -0700, Oleg Smolsky wrote: > > > > > Hey there, I'm thinking of getting the new net5501 board and would like > > > to find out the common way people use CF cards. I assume the bo

Re: [Soekris] CompactFlash cards and Soekris boards

2008-10-10 Thread Oleg Smolsky
Bill Maas wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 16:15 -0700, Oleg Smolsky wrote: Hey there, I'm thinking of getting the new net5501 board and would like to find out the common way people use CF cards. I assume the board can boot from a CF card, and my question is whether can I create an ext

Re: [Soekris] CompactFlash cards and Soekris boards

2008-10-10 Thread RB
> Assume the card is a cheap consumer card and tolerates 250,000 writes. > Then the card's wear-leveling won't help you, and the card will break > down after only about nine years. Operant word "only"; let's put the scale into perspective: Crank it down even more - assume the card's even cheaper

Re: [Soekris] CompactFlash cards and Soekris boards

2008-10-10 Thread Richard Gooch
Bill Maas writes: > It depends on the application you have in mind. For a router, the CF > is perfect, for a DB backend server it most likely > isn't. Maintaining a swap partition is also not a viable option with > a CF card. This isn't actually true. Even the older CF cards have "good enough" wea

Re: [Soekris] CompactFlash cards and Soekris boards

2008-10-10 Thread Davy MELINA
Arnt: Just for my information, do you know how many write (maybe read too) operations support a standard CF ? Le 10 oct. 08 à 13:01, Arnt Gulbrandsen a écrit : > Stuart Henderson writes: >> On 2008-10-10, Davy MELINA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Use JFFS2 filesystem on your CF not EXT3FS or u

Re: [Soekris] CompactFlash cards and Soekris boards

2008-10-10 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Davy MELINA writes: > Arnt: Just for my information, do you know how many write (maybe read > too) operations support a standard CF ? Millions and millions of writes. Each particular block supports a few hundred thousand. Maybe a million or more. Depends on the card. So you can overwrite each

Re: [Soekris] CompactFlash cards and Soekris boards

2008-10-10 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Stuart Henderson writes: > On 2008-10-10, Davy MELINA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Use JFFS2 filesystem on your CF not EXT3FS or use TMPFS for your /var. > > CF already does wear-levelling in the card's controller. And longevity > is *far* better than many people seem to assume. People aren't r

Re: [Soekris] CompactFlash cards and Soekris boards

2008-10-10 Thread Steve Clark
Oleg Smolsky wrote: > Hey there, I'm thinking of getting the new net5501 board and would like > to find out the common way people use CF cards. I assume the board can > boot from a CF card, and my question is whether can I create an ext3fs > partition on the CF, mount it on / and use it as if I

Re: [Soekris] CompactFlash cards and Soekris boards

2008-10-10 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008-10-10, Davy MELINA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Use JFFS2 filesystem on your CF not EXT3FS or use TMPFS for your /var. CF already does wear-levelling in the card's controller. And longevity is *far* better than many people seem to assume. You may want to arrange for read-only filesystems

Re: [Soekris] CompactFlash cards and Soekris boards

2008-10-10 Thread Bill Maas
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 16:15 -0700, Oleg Smolsky wrote: > Hey there, I'm thinking of getting the new net5501 board and would > like to find out the common way people use CF cards. I assume the > board can boot from a CF card, and my question is whether can I create > an ext3fs partition on the CF,

Re: [Soekris] CompactFlash cards and Soekris boards

2008-10-10 Thread Davy MELINA
Use JFFS2 filesystem on your CF not EXT3FS or use TMPFS for your /var. Le 10 oct. 08 à 01:15, Oleg Smolsky a écrit : > Hey there, I'm thinking of getting the new net5501 board and would > like to find out the common way people use CF cards. I assume the > board can boot from a CF card, and my

Re: [Soekris] CompactFlash cards and Soekris boards

2008-10-09 Thread Thorsten M.
You can use it just like any normal IDE drive. On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:15:05 -0700 Oleg Smolsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey there, I'm thinking of getting the new net5501 board and would like to > find out the common way people use CF cards. I assume the board can boot from > a CF card, and

[Soekris] CompactFlash cards and Soekris boards

2008-10-09 Thread Oleg Smolsky
Hey there, I'm thinking of getting the new net5501 board and would like to find out the common way people use CF cards. I assume the board can boot from a CF card, and my question is whether can I create an ext3fs partition on the CF, mount it on / and use it as if I had a normal IDE/SATA drive